Throwdown0850

IMHO, I could.. Judo is my specialty..

Jigoro Kano's Judo "specilized" in throws and standing techniques.. if you want to see more ground work in Judo then try a Kosen Judo class..

you will be falling a lot so tuck that chin in..

When you answered the original post, I thought to myself that that's how I felt, myself. I noticed you have Jocky Gym Muay Thai in your MA background, which I'm not familiar with. I also saw in your posting Ft. Bragg, and your profile says the military. I read an article in the NY Times about how all branches of the military have had boxing as a tradition, but now MMA is coming in. The article focused on the army. Jockeygym is a famous camp that used to exist in Thailand but no longer does. It's known for making orthadox fighters fight in southpaw to confuse opponents. In the Army, we have modern army combatives which kind of has a MMA focus but I'd say more BJJ but also focuses on using other techniques against a opponent that has a knife, rifle, etc. It goes up to level 4 with 4 being the highest. For some people depending on their job it's required training and for others it's optional but everyone in the Army gets at least a small taste of it in basic/"boot camp" and possibly in their AIT(job training). Crosstraining is very bad for a beginner if they're doing something like Karate and boxing...TKD and Muay Thai, and so on. However, if the instructor is teaching them both arts at the same time it can be done. Muangsurin camp in Thailand and some other Thai thaiboxing camps taught TKD and Muay Thai together(i.e. Master Toddy and Master Sken). If someone does something like boxing and wrestling or muay thai and bjj, it won't effect them as a beginner. If you were to do kempo, karate, tkd and than train muay thai at some other school and don't have any roots you're only doing yourself harm. I came into Muay Thai, myself when I was already a shodan in shito and goju and temporarily "forgot" my karate as much as I could so I could learn the muay thai. I also trained in Muay thai for 3-5 hours 5-6 days a week for the first year and had two fights within my first year so I was somewhat committed more so than the person that trains 3 hours a week. Once I felt I was catching onto muay thai did I start to intergrate or combine my karate with it. I did this all my jr. year of highschool, too..and I'm 29 now. I know I'm getting off the topic here...but once I was able to integrate muay thai and my more "classical" karate was I given a crash course in knockdown karate and literally given a shodan in a knockdown style of karate to fight in Enshin and kyokushin tournaments. It was very easy to make that transition for me coming from point fighting karate to muay thai and than to knockdown kumite. Real karate as I like to call it, is very similar to all styles of Karate, it's just how it's emphasized is what seperates it and makes it a different ryu/kai/kan. Have fun in your training. someone just gave you a black belt???... I over simplified..I trained with someone for a few months that won a Sabaki tournament a few years prior against a Japanese Enshin champion, and as far as I know is the only person to ever beat this person in any Sabaki tournament. I trained with this person to get ready for my knockdown karate debut who is a black belt in quite a few styles and instructor ranked in muay thai at a high level. After a few months of this training he presented me with a black belt in a style of knockdown karate but I was I myself already had a fairly decent background in shito and goju and had a few muay thai fights under my belt which I won. I was also outsparring him in knockdown kumite and was "expected" to win so a lot of pressure was put on me. This isn't that uncommon of a practice, if you ask around, for someone with a background in a style that switches to another style they will be granted rank or their rank is recognized. Especially if they have something to bring to the table, meaning, can they win and represent that style well in competition? I'm not going to point out names of styles and people I know first hand that have done this but it does happen. I also know of certain martial art company owners that are just given belt certificates for providing free uniforms, etc. I know this thread has spread away from it's original purpose and I'm sorry but just wanting to clarify. I practice Enshin too!! I would love to go to the Sabaki Challenge!

training/kata- fists palms up under rib sparring- high guard like boxer.

yep!

besides, I know we are living in a pretty twisted world but still what are the odds of havin a gun pulled on you rather than a fist fight??? thats what I thought....

^ this one...

When you answered the original post, I thought to myself that that's how I felt, myself. I noticed you have Jocky Gym Muay Thai in your MA background, which I'm not familiar with. I also saw in your posting Ft. Bragg, and your profile says the military. I read an article in the NY Times about how all branches of the military have had boxing as a tradition, but now MMA is coming in. The article focused on the army. Jockeygym is a famous camp that used to exist in Thailand but no longer does. It's known for making orthadox fighters fight in southpaw to confuse opponents. In the Army, we have modern army combatives which kind of has a MMA focus but I'd say more BJJ but also focuses on using other techniques against a opponent that has a knife, rifle, etc. It goes up to level 4 with 4 being the highest. For some people depending on their job it's required training and for others it's optional but everyone in the Army gets at least a small taste of it in basic/"boot camp" and possibly in their AIT(job training). Crosstraining is very bad for a beginner if they're doing something like Karate and boxing...TKD and Muay Thai, and so on. However, if the instructor is teaching them both arts at the same time it can be done. Muangsurin camp in Thailand and some other Thai thaiboxing camps taught TKD and Muay Thai together(i.e. Master Toddy and Master Sken). If someone does something like boxing and wrestling or muay thai and bjj, it won't effect them as a beginner. If you were to do kempo, karate, tkd and than train muay thai at some other school and don't have any roots you're only doing yourself harm. I came into Muay Thai, myself when I was already a shodan in shito and goju and temporarily "forgot" my karate as much as I could so I could learn the muay thai. I also trained in Muay thai for 3-5 hours 5-6 days a week for the first year and had two fights within my first year so I was somewhat committed more so than the person that trains 3 hours a week. Once I felt I was catching onto muay thai did I start to intergrate or combine my karate with it. I did this all my jr. year of highschool, too..and I'm 29 now. I know I'm getting off the topic here...but once I was able to integrate muay thai and my more "classical" karate was I given a crash course in knockdown karate and literally given a shodan in a knockdown style of karate to fight in Enshin and kyokushin tournaments. It was very easy to make that transition for me coming from point fighting karate to muay thai and than to knockdown kumite. Real karate as I like to call it, is very similar to all styles of Karate, it's just how it's emphasized is what seperates it and makes it a different ryu/kai/kan. Have fun in your training. someone just gave you a black belt???...

sparring is the closest thing to real world application.. because you are fighting a fully resisting opponent..

It will at least help your reflexes speed up quicker and have a way better defense..

we have been doing this training exercise for a while.. it can have some pretty unexpected outcomes..

I believe that competition is one of the best training tools for a "real" life situation, full contact being the most beneficial.. because you are fighting a fully resisting opponent..

this sounds like a cool setup too, shorikid.. looks tough.

the back would be kinda be hard but, get a rope and tie one of them to your feet and do weighted dips for the chest or weighted push-ups..

Dang it!!! I was at Best Buy a couple of days ago and I had the movie (best of the best) in my hands, I have never seen it but it looked interesting.. but nooooo, my wife wanted Ice Age 2...

Dangerous, how? In what ways do you mean? Just curious. I think tori is saying it because the untrained fighter would be unpredictable?? I think...

round houses... practice the Muay Thai Roundhouse a lot and then do it some more and some more... lots of shin conditioning!! fyi, be careful on the conditioning..practice the "clinch" as well, knees, elbows and stuff like that.. Muay Thai doesn't have "secret katas" or techniques.. its all about using your fist, elbows, knees and legs..

Tallgeese, that looks like a pretty cool setup there.. What style was you talking about? looked like Kenpo?

I think you may be thinking of "hard body conditioning"..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yA-WuPkR8w&feature=related

yeah..

Today my wife got home still standing in the doorway and found the top mattress on the floor in the living room and I said "I have to show this cool throw"..... about half way through the sentence she shuts the door and is gone... I actually managed to teach her the O Goshi today though..

Right. In Bjj, a BB represents mastery, while in Judo it represents a knowledge of the techniques and an ability to use them but not an 'expert' per se (depending on Dan rank). A black belt Judoka is roughly equal to a blue or purple belt in BJJ time and experience wise. Anyhow, I think that this is highlighted more by the way they rank in Japan where I hope to train soon- just white and black (with some places having brown). Depending on how much time you put in on both the mat and class (plus results), a BB can be attainable in 3-4 years. no disrespect but, do you have evidence to back this?? IMO, it is the student, not the art.... and also, explain how a BB in judo is not as "good" as a BB in BJJ??? I have seen a brown belt in Judo beat a BJJ fighter ( who was a 2nd degree BB and has competed)

a Japanese movie Called Throwdown is my favorite.. I also really enjoyed Red Belt..

In my Judo class: - cant start training until 16. - perform all 67 traditional throws correctly - perform all NeWaza and Joint techniques correctly - Randori... lots and lots of Randori through competition and sparring in class. Usually takes 4 to 6 years to get Shodan.