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not really of you picking the one you agree with the most. Its all open to your own interpration of its history.

thanks muaythai, I agree with your post too. I just wanted to get better at fighting then belong to other orgizations.

not really if your not exposed to how to take the hit then your just abusing your body.

You do have a point.

You got all the fun stories some even say the a women was watching a Crane kind of like the same idea a s the Hakutsuru stuff beikng created. Its all legend and open to interpretation

this is why I don't like being involved with Huge orginzations and there petty politics. and all the (he said, she said stuff) I wish people would just shut up and train!

maybe for a little bit to gaouge where you are at. but you will get better by picking those week points and drilling it and then drilling it after you get comfortable with the motions with a some resistance from your partner. Bringing note books to write down stuff you learned what you need to work on is a good way to track your progress and help you stay focused. All out sparring has its place but to do it all the time or let that be your focus you will learn some but you will get better faster with resistance drilling

It basically is put together by nick cerio. Idea is martial arts weren't complete so they mixed it with Shaolin 5 animal kung fu, okinawan/Japense Karate? Japensese Ju-Jitsu, as well as Chinese or hawaiian kenpo. they go off the 4 ranges theory. kicking, punching, and stand up grappling and ground grappling. although groups like villari doesn't claim nick cerio but that he created it. As welll as USSD don't claim villari taught them. I don't think the ground part is very technical. As well as I don't think they transition to well between the striking and grappling ranges from what I seen. Depends on how the instructor is and his knowledge of being able to trainsion fluidly between ranges and how techical they are in teaching it. Hope that explanation helps.

I never cared for her that much.

yeah I know what you mean and I agree. On the same note I see what others do and you won't make a living with that attitude. I know some instructors who are good instructors but they also believe they out of a hundred students maybe 2 or more like 1 is really worth the training the rest just pay the bills and helps him have a living and I know alot of instructors who feel the same way.

Harder training is just a higher risk for the instructors. I think people are just plain lazy. They will go through the karate or kung classes and thats fine they will learn to defend against some one who doesn't know much I guess but any thing beyond that and IMO they are going to be trouble. also goes to student retention most students don't want to do that type of training. Either fear of getting hurt or works out look to hard or rough to them. So they are lazy. Which is fine to each is there own. But if instructor pushes that he will loose his current student base.

actuallly you get those guys who are freakishly strong and the can beat Jiu-Jitsu. The guy doesn't know enough technique yet to beat the bigger guys so when your knew like that your going be stuick using stregth for awhile until he discovers diffrent techniques he can use and new strategies to beat these bigger people with more technique and less stregth.

butter fly guard is a technique were you have both legs between your opponentsyour feet are used like hooks by there knee's or thighs. Your sitting up with both arms under hook to your opponent and lock behind his back gripping each other. That is the basic postion of the butterfly guard. As for mount working on the hip bum, elbow escape combo works good for me. I usually can put them back in guard turn over and end up in there guard. Or at least get to half guard and turn them over to work on top postion. Helps with bigger guys who take you down brign your knee's and elbows up to help keep them from mounting you. There is several things you can do from mount several gi chokes, bent arm bars (key lock) mount triangle, as well as arm bars. I usually set up my subs for arms while I am in the mount by grabbing the colar or shoulder and putting my for arm in the opponents throat. I do this because usually the opponent keeps his elbows down by his sides to block me from moving my knee's up higher to isolate his arm movement. So I add the choke for them to defend it and bring the arm up. That allows me to slide my knee up and isolate that arm because they can't bring the elbow back down because my leg hips are block it there for allowing me easier access to get an arm bar. It is also what I use to set up the trinagle choke from mount. Hope these tip help.

probably because the idea of blocking is more defensive. More for those who are counter fighters as opposed to those who feel the best defense is to put up a good offense.

side leading limits your weapons. if you have one foot foward your more to lead off the front leg and same arm. which is quicker. also you step with the punch so that automatically puts one hand back to the rear. I see your point but it is flawwed in that since.

sounds like your opponent is mounted on you work your knee&elbow escapes as well as upa (hip bump escape) in combination with each other. Half guard is a good postion for me to work on with bigger guys because I can turn them over easier with that postion then with guard or go and take the back and go for rear naked or arm bar. whats some of your postions that the big guys get you in that you have the most trouble with?

thats why good fighters use the front hand to confuse, stun, cut, and set up for the rear hand which is more devestating.

I go as hard as the other person wants to go. You didn't do nothing wrong. I would have personally tryed to KO him though. Or talk to him about it. IF he has been talked to before about his behavior I would go for the KO on him. Hopefully that would beat since into his haed. IF that doesnt work and he just won't change his habits. Probably your instructor should expell him from the school because he can be a danger and deterent for other students retainablity in that dojo that spar with him.

Even if they took TKD out of the olympic's it would take a long time to re-establish the arts reputation. Taekwondo is the most popular art in my opinon but alot of that has to do with the "belt factory" concept and those instructors opening up schools although they may not not have indepth knowledge of the art or the coachig ablility to teach it well.

taekwondo means "the way of the hand and foot" but the training metohods employed in MOST takewodno schools I have seen both what would be considered tradiational and olympic or a mcdojo taekwondo school the emphis is on the feet. Kenpo is more from what I seen on the hands as opposed to kicks. Karate is a good mixture of both. depending on which style and how the instructors teach both kenpo and karate have diffrent styles were some may appear more rigid or "stiff" robotic like compared to the others.

So what are the PROPER TRAINING METHODS?

never mind that is a bit aways from me

practice the reps. then after you feel comfortable with the technique have your partner resit you from doing the technique just start off with light resistance then still try to do the move but over come his resistance. Don't have him resist to much were its an out right rolling match. Building up on resitance having your opponent counter your moves and you still making them work will help you learn the angles and diffrent ways of setting the move up you pick. sincd bjj is a small part of your training get the most out of it you can. Some people can learn from all out sparring. Me I am not one of them. Postional sparring, postion maintence and technique resistace is what helps me learn faster. try learning to hold guard while they are trying to pass, work on holding mout while they try to escape and vice versa. use your hips on almost all the moves and transitions you make. trap and roll/upa technique combine that with the elbow and knee escape will help you get out of mount easier. Learning to combine moves works good also. ex. (say doing cross collar choke from guard on your opponent and then when the protect there neck trap the arm and go for arm bar.) or (go for arm bar they pull there arm out in your guard change your hips and body so you can switch to triangle choke) training is about learning I find alot of people starting off focusing more on sparring ends up a full out matches between each ohter and you can learn a bit but you probably will gain more from postional sparring and technique resistance. IMO also pick postions you have the most difficult time in them and have your opponent put you in that postion and you have to work to get your way out while they try to hold on to the postion or go for sub and you defend and work to get out of the postion. Bring a note book right down things you learned. New ways for you to set up techniques. after a training session right down also what you feel your strong points are and also certain things you want to work on or feel your weak at and need to work on them and next training sessions pick one of those thigns you need to work on from your list and practice it over and over until you feel you can take care of it. The note book is a definite good training tool. help keep track of ideas and things you learned as well as tracking your progress. Good l luck in your training.

so what particulars and training philisophy's is che-lu about? whats some of its training methods and concepts of the art?

experiment with your own body. do the structure you were taught but then mess with it and move the hips forward back to each side and do a punch as you were taught on a bag or some surface. take the feet move them closer together or wider apart change which feet is in front or back raise lower height level, you can answer alot of your questions by going off ofwhat you feel.