Adonis

white warlock, that jaged rock argument is okay but I have trained on dirty and gravel doing army combatives which is the base is BJJ. I rolled hard on the ground and it didn't much to me at all. Besides it would be the grappler who is more likely to be slaming or dragging some one accross the ground.

You can hold them in an arm bar as long as you want until some one comes up and curb stomps you. LOL!

Thats cool! Same I had a friend who went to a Royce Gracie seminar. HE started telling me about a guy at the end of the seminar asking Royce gracie about he had a hard time with a certain sub and wanted to see what he can do to make it work. Royce says "Yeah I will tell you for 80 dollars" If the guy already paid for the seminar royce should at least help him out. Shows how money hungry he was. Then again my friend could have been full of it. Oh well!

my point is there should be stages for your testing grounds. You can have your opponent punch in on you you test the moves okay you go through the pattern you know you can go do it with speed and power but the idea some one steps forward and holds there punch out there for you to do a technique on them and stand there while you hit them is unrealistic training. So picking up the trianing you have the guy throw 2 punches at you one from one hand pulling back and throwing from the other, a little more better and you work the technique off of that, then pick it up have him move, gague the distance nad use that, change it up some more adding in harder contact and more realistic like movement. To test it out, to eventually sparring all out with it. How many people can make there moves work in sparring accept for a few back fists, reverse punches, some kicks and a few take downs thats it. Even then not solid comapred to mma fighters. My point is if your not testing your training out on a coninious basis. But I hear lame excuses of instead testing out moves. They say "of course they work they been aorund for years, that is the test of time" No its not! Because a peron doesn't know if some one changed the techniques along the way deleted things. Or maybe that person pulled them off based on certain variables. but how can "YOU" as an indvidual do the same. Or other excuses as "techniques to deadly" Okay to a certain point. but doesn't hold much water what you going to do to a regular drunk or jsut a relative bieng jerk trying to slam you around. KILL them! Yeah okay! Have fun with bubba in jail is all I got to say. those excuses are garbage. If you aren't testing yuour moves, and tesitng them from people with other styles, you can fully say your stuff works. based off of what? thats my point got to be able to test them. I know styles don't just have kililng techniques or to deadly becaue they are based off self defense. So make it work there is diffrent levels of escualation. Only thing y ou got to work for you is a throat chop of death. Not going to stand much to some one who has basics down who can throw punches to hurt you, who can take you down, sub you, and what not. If your basic kicks and punches don't work with you. not much those so called killing techniques are going to do either as far as fighting a trained opponent. Either way thats my rant and I am sticking to it. THAT IS ALL! The K25

kK1975 what type of Jiu-Jitsu you studying?

I don't know why but every time i hear the word curb stomp I think of a guy biting a curb and some guy kicking them in the head.

LOL @ "curb stomp"

baisc way to make moves work or to gain power. Is by turning and going up or down. basically meaning with the weight. bending the knees letting the hips drop a little bit using your weight helps for power as well as rotation of the hips and the shoulders. Driving pressure from the feet and legs. there are alot of factors that go into a powerful strikes. people say this or that. Get a a few good schools of wing chun and have them face people who did equal amount of training as far as time in training goes. Have them go at it and see what happens when its all said and done. proof is in the pudding.

I agree with subgrappler, also I hear the machado's teach more and more in detail with there instruction. I hear the gracie's hold back. accept for Renzo.

I don't know much about tai-kai but I know over all as a team they have alot of good competionors dominating in diffrent tournaments by reading results on line. So it seems like a good place to train.

People keep talking about the MMA and its rules. Which is some point. But regular martial art training isn't much better. Bottom line street is unpredicatble. You train to hopefully be better prepared then you were before. but bottom line guns, knves, multiple attackers, there are many complications and variables. Disgruntled employee walks into work and shoots you the mma fighter and co-worker highly trained traditional artist. Doesn't matter both of you die. There are many scenerio's and stuff to deal with in conflinct from the street. Either way on that note. You got to have a test of your skills. two opponents going at it. That are well trained is a good test for each other. All I have to say is if you can say you can do something where is the proof. So where's the deadly technique. Its nothing but unproven theory. Unless you as indvidual can pull it off consitantly then its theory. So where is the test?

some who doesn't know strikes but can take down and submit against a pure striker. I would put it on the grapper. My opinon. Jiu-Jitsu and judo are okay. Boxing/ muay thai are great also. wreslting is the key to getting the take downs and stopping take downs. Chuck Liddel is D1 wreslter and it helps him get back up to his feet to do his striking and he has ko'ed some people as we all know. Vandereli Silva schooled quite a few others with his mauy thai and Jiu-Jitsu techniques from the chute box. But vice versa, got to be able to strike also few of teh gracie's have been KO'd because they couldn't keep up with the evolution of martial arts. You got to learn both. You got be able to have a ground game and a striking game. Have to be cross training. Even now some of the glarring weakness are going out the window as fighters become more cross trained and well rounded so though holes in there game start becoming smaller. JMO Got to be well rounded

I think its when is all based on interpration and people h ave there own ideas as to what a martial artist is. Some don't like the term martila artist. SO they use Martial athelete, others use, martial scientist, and ect,ect,ect. Its all up to YOU.

I think both have a point. UFC has rules and rules make fights. Take pride for example and sakaraba he shot alot for the single leg and most of the time got it. Until he met silva who sprawled on him and messed him up. Then later on they added you can knee some one even if they are on the "four points" so silva and others have messed up peopole bad kneeing people to the top of the head KOing them. Rules does change the fight game. athletics helps a person control there body more. Being in shape and trained gives you more of an advantage as opposed to those who just train. On another note MMA events prepare you for the rules of that event. Streets are diffrent. Better not to get into a fight in the first place. Competivness does help bring warrior out of some one. To push them selves to be better. So arguments can both sides can be said. I seen people claim they don't compete they just use there for self defense. Well thats fine but they weren't good at there moves. They looked good they can do the moves on a partner that goes with them or a semi resiting partner but alot of the techniques they couldn't pull off except when they spar only a few punch and kick techniques. Either way, I enjoy training to enjoy training some much can happen on the street and you prepare y our best but no one is trianed to deal with ever circumstance you do your best to adapt but so many variables are out there. I feel MMA fighters would do better over all against average TMA fightes. Just my opinion. Oh and the comment that your martail art is only for self defense to defend your life and that of your loved ones and if you mess up you better adjust your training. IF you mess up? your probably dead if its to save your life. LOL! I think MMA events against other training opponents is a great way to test your ability's out. Or that type of training with other trianign partners and diffrent people who wnat to do that. Okay enough of my ramblings for now

very good article. I agree its not just practing kata though. But how you practice kata. Focusing on its applications of the kata and how one movement can be multiple applications used for chokes, strikes, throws, on diffrent parts of the body. Some people are to rigid in there thinking. Down ward block how it can be used as a break on the arm, hand, or foot. but some people just think of it as a downward block. Not to mention what you said focusing on the princpiles of how the make the moves work. To make your body move more effeciently, to generate more power, speed, and the details it needs to make what ever mo es work for the indivudal.

ninjamac, where do you train at?

Probably because they had a fall out and didn't want to claim villari as his instructor. Instead the go on that they are trained by some monks and all this shaolin Temple nonsense. That all they got to do is drop a thosands dollars and any one can get a certificate and pictures saying they are trained by shaolin. Money rules the world!

I thought it was more like adonis. LOL!

In all honesty I wouldn't worry about it. You offered him a challange right? He is ignoring you and won't accept the challange. So you have your answer there. Don't dwell on it. You know he is full of it... so move on! There is better things you can do then dwelling on this issue, like focus on your training.

Oh yeah if comes to training and not street fight, then it is fun, have fun play around you learn more relaxed then you do all wound up. Plus its more fun for you and your partner. I am sure every one has stories of some person who seemed like a meat head or just wanted to go to hard with you and you felt the tenition and had to be on your toes or you would get hurt. I had people like that weather they are spazzing out in Jiu-Jitsu or going nuts in sparring. I try to talk to them and tell them to calm down it isn't life or death. Training should be fun. Out there.. on the street they can go nuts with the guy but not with me. Don't get me wrong I like intense training at times especially if your going to compete but there is a diffrence between being intense and being a spaz and going so hard you hurt your training partners consistantly. Thats no fun then.

thats my point. You got the control the anger. you can be mad or have emotion in the fight but controled anger. There is a diffrence between agressiveness or assertivness and flow blown mad. Which you just end up with tunnel vision and throwing things out as apposed to being agressive and just going for it. I seen just by aggression beat more skilled opponents because they hesitated or what not. Emotion can help fuel your body and hits become harder. Just have to control the anger.

Don't listen to these people as as true disciple to your sensei it is your duty to defend his honor. In asia they fight to the death for any slight that is put against there master. You must avenge your sensei and challange this clown to a fight to the death. What you do is start a secret tournament. Simply called "The Kumite" eventually you will fight other people and defeat them first in this same kumite. then you will fight the head dude. Before you fight this guy. You must first train by getting to chairs an spreading them out and going into the side splits on the chairs. After that you are ready to fight. you go fight the guy who dishonored your sensei by using a series of kicks. In the process he throws powder in your face and temporiarly blinds you. You still beat him with your kicks. So go and avenge your Sensei. Don't let know one dishonor your sensei "DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR"

I say forget the speed, power, control thing. I like this saying better. "If you can touch it, you can break it, if can break it, tear it off and beat him with it." That is all Karate25

Yeah but alot of fights are won by the person being more of the aggressor. More committed in the attack there for it over whelmed the other and they were kept on the defensive.

either way once your technqiues are smooth you can speed them up.