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Although that was a somewhat humorous response, it may provoke further comments in return that we probably won't allow here. So I'm going to ask that any references to weight problems or girlfriends be kept outa here. Thanks.

Man, I wish SRV, Randy Rhoads, and John Bonham were still around.

I suggest washing down a few Gas-X tablets with a Mountain Dew.

Combine the two previous posts. That's what a specialist would recommend. Start with 3 or 5 lb ankle weights if you don't have access to a machine. Do the extensions (don't lock out the knee) in a chair or on a table and the curls standing up against a table. Go slow. You'll be surprised how a little weight will tire you out.

I like to cut the material out under the armpit area. Saves money on pretreatment.

Ditto.

Read the first post for an explanation.

You two will have to trade your insults via personal email because it will not be allowed on this thread anymore, OK?

The shrink wrap on CDs.

Cost of treatment vs. lifelong problems with that hand It's a no-brainer.

In Kuntaw there is no bowing. The Philipinos who developed it did not want anybody considered more important than the other.

That explains why.

KSN, When do the chokes start?

Studied for about three years. And yes, it's very comprehensive. It's a lifetime learning art or system as my instructor once called it. The school closed this past spring, so now I am taking Kuntaw (Philippino).

There might be some, I don't know.

Very much so. That's why I said it's hard to choose a favorite. There's approx 10 different techniques for each method of attack, such as wrist hold, clothing grab, whatever. Each one has a combination of joint manipulating, pressure point hits, strikes, and takedowns. It's all about controlling your attacker.

Sure it is. But you must know that as you fight and adrenaline begins to flow small targets become much harder to hit because your motor skill aren't used to the rush you are experiencing. You can train yourself to overcome this but it takes time. And besides I said GRAPPLING moves, not strikes Ahh, sorry. Grappling eh? Kinda difficult to choose from. Most of what I learned in KSW includes manipulating the wrist and arm in a way that drops the attacker down to the ground, where you can follow up with some strikes. There are so many it's hard to pick a favorite.

How about poppin 'em in the throat? That's a show stopper in my book.

There's a lot of different agencies in this country and I'm sure they have their own policies to what the minimum requirements are. As to why one might choose a striking defense over a grappling defense really shouldn't matter because it's basic defense, right?

My cousins (from Follansbee) drove up to that game in Wisconsin last year. I'm a closet WVU fan myself. They remind me of the Lions. Good luck to your bro.

Spoken like a true cheesehead. I guess I shouldn't talk too much. I get like that in Vegas. Favorite place: On a golf course.

Seen previews. It's * to the extreme. Doesn't say much for the society we live in.

My comment was not intended to build further argument and the discussion will be closed if it continues to stray off-topic.

Biker clubs won't bother you unless you are looking for trouble. They want to have a good time just like everyone else.

Wouldn't be half as ugly as taunting the biker club that I seen at the Iron Maiden concert last week.