shotokanwarrior

I know that a real fight is messy, you do not look like the movies and there is little technique. My question is, if a persont is effectivly using kicks and strikes is he doing karate? What do you guys consider karate in a street fight, you can have 2 guys with the same moves, one being trained formally and one not. One reason why I ask is because I do not train formally. my co-worker and I are best friends, he is a 4th dan with 40 yrs experiance. I go to his class off and on but more off than on. I do train with him but not to the extent of learning requirements for belt grading, more along the line of just fighting and self defense. Just wondering what everyones opinion was.

I like to give a good kick to someones hand.

I agree with TJS, It is easy to sit on the couch with a beer and say that you can whoop some guys * and him being a pro.

this is a little off topic but I know what you mean about moving to the right spot. I try many things with my instructor and he always moves just out of range or he even moves in and jams me, but what really go me one day I was trying some jkd tatics on him and he kept his lead foot where it was and just pivited and ended up right to the side of me and totaly bypassed my attack. then i was in trouble after that.

not exactly, I know an old shihan who kicks and lands his round kicks with his shin not the ball of the foot. He also teaches okanawn kabudo ant their cat stane is different, 1% of the weight on the front foot. A shotokan student from another school will do things different but they are not wrong and will not be judged wrong during a test.

First of all the way another style does a kick does not make it wrong it isjust different, it is a matter of what one fits more to your need. A lot of people put downbreaking boards and bricks but how many boxer have broken their wrists or hand from punching out side the ring ( many ). The above sports I do not think spend more time in basics that karate, because you do them your whole life.

Mine has the name of the community and the art...cordova shotokan karate

a karate block is not really a block but a strike to the arm or hand when it is attacking. I do it all the time, and you do not chamber the arm on the hip before the block. that is only done is basics to learn the mechanics of the technique and to use the movement of the hips

I believe that you should have a good foundation in basics. You will learn and understand more in the long run, but if you just want to learn how to fight quickly the above sports will do. Also remember without time spent in basics you may end up breaking your wrist or hand from the lack of learning the correct way to do things.

http://www.wingtsun.nl/chal-grc.htm TJS go to this site and read the articles

Just because they say they are wing chun does not make a good fighter, it is the individual. I would have to say that emin boztepe is a great wc fighter and had bjj and NHB fighters decline challanges

why not add a your name if you changed an art. wing chun was a womens name.

sounds like a bad instructor, not the style of karate.

I am from the sacramento area.

Maybe the head instructor put that guy in charge of the class. It does not matter what rank you are if he is put in charge you respect him just like he was your sensei. A yellow belt can run a class if the instructor say's so. Belts are to hold up your pants they have no reflection of skill, this idea ia maybe just 100 years old.

Does any one here do JKD? I have not seen anything posted on it, to much in here.

Now who is watching to much tv... Its all that simple

shorinryu sensei sounds a bit paranoid.... Where I live every gang member on the corner has a gun, so am I a paranoid freak to have one to? I dont think so just prepared.

The rules are good but it sounds like a good way to get beat down in the street. One warningis all anyone gets, if someone steps into my personal space that is an attack so I back up once, if i can and let them know to stay back. If not i strike. My daddy always said. if you think someone is going to hit you, hit them first.

The self defence situations my instructor was in all lasted but 30 seconds and never went to the ground.

I think it is life, our life energy.

I would say judo but dont ignore boxing because you will need to know what it feels like to be hit because odds are you will be and it will not suprise you.

it is what you do with your time between classes that also count.

Try to guess mine

I might be the only person here but I do believe that you can learn for the most part by yourself. basics are all that you need in a fight that is why they are drilled to death, it becomes part you your instint. I also believe that you do need at least a partner so that you may get feedback and also get the feel of resistance. Im not saying you will be the best and for sure you can not promote yourself but you will learn more to survive than you would laying around the house.