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Im sure alot of people would like to do that..that way they could live in a world of ignorance and not see obvious weekneeses pointed out by a little brazilian guy...unfortunatly some people still do. Did I claim too? No, but I think The UFC is one of the best judges there has been for what types of techniques work in a real fight. there are no red belts in BJJ I dont have to prove anything for BJJ to be succesful...look at it's track record..im sure you would like to ignore that also.

Both are self defense oriented systems. I would Give the Advantage to KM as far as self defense for a Few reasons. A) You become profficent In KM quicker than you would in WC. Some may ague but I belive it's pretty widely know KM is a system that is taught very quickly and effectivly. B)I belive KM would be more likely to work under and Extremly Stressfull situation because It is based on more natural and instinctive movements and reactions. There are a few other reasons but these are the two main ones are far as self defense is concerned.

It depends on the school. I would say that you are more likely to find a school that is not than one that is.

Exactly..I dont think it gives either side a clear advantage.

Whynot- did you ever watch he first 15 UFC's? you know the ones where every Boxer got taken down..usually without landing a hit first.. Royce Gracie vs Art Jimmerson in UFC 1 is the first example.

There have been a few but the most Prominent Was Proabably Jason Delucia. Treebranch- In some ways Yes and in other know..I dont think BJJ and MT are perfect but they are extremly effective and are good and there specific field. I trained in TKD years ago and I do train in BJJ to some extent...The Fighting aspect of KM is very similar to Muay Thai but with some obviosu diffrences. If they are succesful In a Ring with Limited rules against trained fighters I would tend to belive they would be somewhat effective outside a ring against normal people. I guess you cant "prove" anything but i have a pretty good idea myself. I realize that. Obviously there are many diffrences and those should be adressed..I still belive someone who has fought before will be better prepared than someone who has not. I measure what techniques more than what stlyes...When the Rules are no biting and no eye gouging i think you still get a good idea of what works. Yea the same is true of basketball players...I dont see the point. possibley... SO would anyone...I dont know what your saying...grappler wouldent throw punches or a boxer wouldent kick someone in the ground? I dont know what the point of that is. Ok...? Did anyone say otherwise? but guess what i bet the winner of the fight would be in a good position to do serious damage if he wanted too.

Because MT and BJJ are the most proven stlyes out there. Thats just the Fact. Rules Never Hampered Kung Fu guys in the First UFC's ...One of the most succesful Kung Fu fightiers in MMA almost got his arm broken of by Royce at UFC 2. kung fu just never had succes In Nhb fighting even in the early days. As Far as Standup I think MT pretty much has that covered. But do whatever you enjoy...as long as you realize certain truths.

wouldent it be the opposite of what you just said? If he is speaking of Flexability/cardio/workout etc....then a TKD school that is more sport oriented is going to possible offer more than one teching realistic self defense/fighting.

no because only Mcdojos tell people that they can beat Wild animals.

Flexability =TKD early on. You dont do many high kicks/fancier kicks in KM untila bit later on. Hard to say, Most KM schools offer sperate classes...My school offers a Fighting fittness class that is one of the hardest i have. AS far as the regular self defense classes they are pretty intese but i might give the edge to TKD

Pat Millitech...one of the greatest fighters/trainers in the world Millitech Martial arts has produced top fighters again and again and is one of the most respected teams in NHB. I wouldent call them stupid considering every member of that Gym could proabably kill you in under 30 seconds... But I guess people say things on the internet that they woulden tin person. Millitech is his last name...Yea..how lame..

no one know what you can do, I would suggest finding a local Muay Thai gym and testing your theory.

not really sure..generally most of the best lighter fighters come from Thailand. but rescently America has produced fighter that have won against Thai fighters...mostly from Fairtex

I would say there arent really diffrent stlyes more diffrent rules depending on where you are located. Like some rules allow throws/elbows etc so they are going to train with that. In some contries they add sidekicks and such. and obviously things will vary from school to school..some will foucs more on hands..come on knees..some on kicks etc. But I would say overall it's going to be pretty similar.

none of them have had much succes in NHB. however there have been a Few people who have a Kyokushin background and actually use it. Bas Rutten has a Background in Kyokushin and gives it alot of credit for his conditioning and his trademark bodyshots. Semmy Schilt also has a Kyokushin background.

All I know is Shotokan has never been succesful like Kyokushin in various fighting Organizations. And you can blame it on lack of shotokan guys out there.

Mas Oyama Proved that Kyokushin could compete with Muay Thai. Kyokushin has been the ONLY Karate stlye that has been able to compete with Muay Thai on the upper levels. Most stlyes have sent fighters to Thailand and had challenge matches against MT. Kyokushin is one of the few to have a good track record. MT usually has an edge over Kyokushin even. I belive MT succes record speaks for itself.

I think AndreGreen sumed it up pretty well.

BJJ..pretty broad question..but most things being equal i would give it the highest chance of succes

not really...

I would give the edge to a the kickboxer because of full contact ring experience...he proabably knows how to take a hit(to the head) and is used to fighting.

TKD?

cry in training laugh in combat. Prepare yourself mentally and physically for more than any 1 person could do to you.

It gives an arena for people to test standup fighting skills...I also prefer MMA/NHB..but im suprised to hear this from TKD stlyist..TKD is notorious for teaching little or no grappling...and few admit that it is not realistic.

If taught right Judo can be very effective a good throw can end a fight and if it dosent you are in a position to do so or to get away.