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Sam wrote: Well if this was the real intention of the thread, I'd have to say that with a 10 to 1 ratio (years of training), and with the traditional Martial Arts mentioned, the latter is the clear winner in my opinion.

Of course Kung Fu can be effective if studied seriously and for some time. It's certainly not a quick fix martial art, but if you have the patience and the dedication to last more than a couple of years you should be able to defend yourself in the street.

Sabumnim wrote: I agree with this but up to a certain point, you have to respect the differences in arts. Lets face it, some arts are more street effective than others.

This a shame to have to hide that you do martial arts, that's especially true for karatekas. At my age I don't care to tell anyone I do Judo, but for seconadary school students that is a different story because you might very well get picked on by bullies. I admit I wouldn't go into a bar and yell out I DO JUDO!! because surely some goons would try me out!!

It took four months for me to get my yellow belt.

I doubt it because karate is not a complete martial art. Can be very effective like many other martial arts that do not do well in the ring, but lacks in ground work. I understand what you mean when you say people bash karate. MMA has been good for some martial arts, but it has been a disaster for many others including karate, kung fu, tae kwon do, etc. People in the streets might believe these styles are ineffective because of MMA events but many of those might be surprised if they get into a fight with one of them.

The only problem there is/was with wrestling is finishing the guy off. At least this is the perception I got from pure wrestlers in early UFCs. Great martial art alone for takedowns and control, but weak in finishing off your opponent.

I asked my girlfriend if she wanted to do Judo and she refused, and to tell you the truth I really don't care if a girl does martial arts or not. No, on second thought I think Ì prefer those who don't because I prefer a very feminine girl (I'm not saying that girls who do MA are masculine by the way). But I wouldn't refuse a girl just because she does martial arts, there's so much more involved when speaking of relationships

I really don't believe someone with one year of training in the aforementioned arts would beat a ten year veteren in Kyokushin, Judo, Jujitsu. Moreso, I believe a mix of these last three martial arts would make a very complete fighter who could be able to beat a fighter who does boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai, wrestling in a street fight, with the same amount of training. This being said, the same can be said about the other fighter, he could win also that's for sure. It would be a very interesting fight indeed. You can compare the two fighters this way: Kyokushin vs. Muay Thai (pretty even) Judo vs. Wrestling and BJJ (advantage to the second because of the mixture of the two styles, however a good throw on concrete could change that) The interesting match-up, in my opinion is JJJ vs. Boxing. Perhaps JJJ could completely outshine boxing in a street fight....perhaps

I was passing in front of a bar here in town with my car tonight when I saw an acknowledged 'street fighter' for many years where I live and the guy, probably 26-27 now, still looks like he'd like to start a fight: Shaved head (nothing against shaved heads but just describing him), fierce look, walks with both arms wide apart (although he's not that big, 180 maybe). I simply began to laugh because he's getting a bit too old for that sort of thing, Oh well some people never change. Wonder if he'll pick on someone tonight.

ivette_green wrote: This combination looks as good as anything else. Someone proficient in those three martial arts should be tough to beat.

Oh boy, as a huge Seagal fan I can't wait for this movie! Anyone know it will be out?

I agree with most of the things said. These so-called 'streetfighters' are really a bunch to avoid because they often hang out with buddies that enjoy doing the same thing, so things could get very ugly.

I would do a double leg take down when I see him approaching with wild punches

Great post judoguy, I agree with you a 100% on everything you said. Just too bad there's no Krav Maga where I live.

I've heard that Jackie Chan had extensively studied Pak Mei. Any thoughts on this?

No, I truly believe this was staged or it was the luckiest punch ever, and for some reason I would pick the first option because the second one almost seems impossible coming from Jack

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the style Keith Hackney practiced in the early UFCs? He seemed quite competent for a stand-up fighter only.

Same thing here, in our dojo it's a 50/50 split, and I think it's better that way to be more rounded.

I agree with the other post before. Go for it, it can only do you some good.

Oh boy, I don't know but this seems fishy. Perhaps the seasoned Muay Thai fighter was going very easy on him (I'd bet all my money on that) and Jack (whom I truly doubt his punching power) got in a lucky punch that knocked him out. Anyhow, I'm sure the other guy was going easy on him (I mean come on Ozzy and his wife was there) and he let his guard down.

Yes, Jeet Kune Do

I probably have about 300 cd's and all metal, I just love the style, the guitars, etc. it's a passion of mine. I'm mostly in old metal. Here's a few: AC/DC KISS Megadeth Anthrax Exodus Dio Old Def Leppard (first 4) Judas Priest Iron Maiden Alice Cooper and so many more!!! p.s. I'm listening to some Diamond Head (Metallica's biggest imfluence) at the moment - that's some old New Wave of British Heavy Metal for ya. I love the song Borrowed Time - classic!!!!

What I can see from many of your posts is that their would be a 'weakness' (so to speak) in many of your combinations - that is in throwing or takedowns. If I were to pick only two martial arts, I believe a good combination would be Judo for its throws and ground work, and Wing Chun for it's speed, nastiness, and trapping (defense). I believe with these two styles I would cover a lot of fighting range: throws/takedowns, groundwork, punching, kicking, and defense.

I agree with those who say they liked more style vs. style of the early UFCs. I loved those matches, seeing two adversaries fighting completely different styles, that was cool to watch. Today's fighters look too much the same, there's no intrigue to it anymore for me.