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I don't know about Dux Ryu (although the links given to us by GoRacer seem to point out he is legit). However if My Jong Lo Han is the same as My Jong Law Horn (which I guess it is) it is a form of Shaolin Kung Fu. There's a sifu in Quebec City who does teach this style of Kung Fu. According to what I can see My Jong is a soft style from the town of Cang in the province of Hebei, and Law Horn is a relatively harder style under the northern shaolin system. It seems to be a style where accrobatics are demanded (northern style). As for effectiveness I have no clue, but I somewhat doubt its effectiveness (I could be wrong). Ninjitsu is also taught in this school and from what I can read it seems effective enough. It's based on 9 ancient martial art styles. Anyhow, anyone can put what they want on their site, so it's up to you which of these two styles you want to go for. If it would be me I'd go for the Dux Ryu dojo, but then again I'd go check the two beforehand.

Pathetic, I'd be so humiliated if I were him I'd walk out of the dojo my head between my legs

Very good insight Gumbi, thanks a lot you're the first who actually aswered this question. I believe you are right, I better get a good grasp at Judo first before learning something else if I don't have the time, thanks again

Yes that's it!! I know it's a Karate movie, but I kind of all put these old karate-kung fu movies in the same category, they're basically the same except for their style of fighting

Push-ups!!!!!! I really don't see the point of push-ups to excel in martial arts. Did I miss something, are push-ups now considered an art and part of the martial arts curriculum where we must spend time learning them in the dojo?

I was actually speaking of this with a Judo black belt tonight after my class and he told me that to reach another Dan it takes 10 years if you only take regular classes, but it's quicker if you go into competitions. So unless your a competition freak, it does take a long time to reach another Dan thus to answer your question jedimc I guess you do learn more things in between Dans in Judo - I mean in ten years time there's lots you can learn.

I don't know if it's like that in every Judo dojo but we heavily concentrate on ground work. We spent the entire class fighting on ground today, and at every beginning of class we have ground randori to practice our groundwork. I'm actually surprised at this.

I have just finished watching the Street fighter (sister street fighter), I can tell you it's a pretty good movie although I like more the first. By the way, Sonny Chiba really does seem a competent martial artist in those movies, wouldn't have liked to face him in his good days

I'm no expert on the domaine but I have seen more than one. From what I have seen here are my favourites: Operation Dragon with Bruce Lee; The Body guard and the Street Fighter series with Sonny Chiba; Bloodfight with Bolo Yeung; The Image of Bruce Lee with Bruce Li (the guy who was to replace the real Bruce Lee - very good movie by the way); Jackie Chan also has some very good Kung Fu movies. So these would basically be my favourites.

I agree!!

If you look at the martial arts you've written, they are all a lot sport oriented. Interesting, is it that sport oriented martial arts are better for self defence for whatever reason, or is it that they fare better in a cage/rule environment. I'm not making any comments, but it is still interesting......

Yes certainly. I love sports, I always played hockey all my life so I wanted something else I could enjoy while learning self defence at the same time. I like doing randori in Judo, but I'M more in it for its self defence than for competition. and I also enjoy more grappling arts than stiking arts.

Your place really does look like a Mcdojo. If I were you I'd run away from there. On the other hand if what you are seeking is a physical workout like Taebo with a few kicks learnt throughout well stay there. But if it would be me, I would certainly go check some other place out where first you could get the physical conditioning you like, second you could truly learn some effective self defence techniques (and earning a blackbelt would really mean something and wouldn't be almost humiliating - in the sense that you can't really effectively defend yourself for a blackbelt), and third you know it's a serious dojo and not just a money mill sucker. Sorry for being harsh, but this is how I would feel if I ever found out I was in a Mcdojo

Couldn 't have said it better Shorinryu Sensei, great post, I agree with you 100%

Because your normal street fight will be most of the times against an untrained fighter. This is where I believe other arts have an advavantge when fighting more than one opponent. Gumbi wrote I agree, but I believe in a street fight where more than one attacker can emerge, while one being armed, Kung Fu, karate, etc, guys have a better chance of faring well because these martial arts don't concentrate solely on one on one fights. As for Muay Thai, I include this style with the strikers I'm speaking about (Kung Fu, Karate, etc.) although I am not sure this style practices any defence against an armed attacker. Gumbi wrote I totally agree with you

My answer will be biased here, but I do believe Judo can be useful on the streets. It's not because it is sport oriented that it cannot be street effective. Look at wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai/Kickboxing, all 'sports' but still very street effective. A good Judo throw in the streets could easily knock unconscious someone or injure them (or at least knock the wind out of them - leaving you time to finish them off).

By external factors, I mean everything that comes with a street fight. A well conditioned MMA fighter trains and trains for one on one fights, he might be taken by surprise and not know what to do if he sees another opponent on his backside. Weapons like knives, broken beer bottles, etc. (no guns) are other factors where I believe a karate, Kung Fu guy, or whatever striker, (without forgetting Aikidi perhaps) has a better chance of getting out of this confrontation unarmed. A few punches and kicks could give him enough time and room to run (or finish him/them off). The ground is another factor. I wouldn't like to be on the ground (you don't what you'll crawl into) and the possibility of multiple attackers. I'm a grappler so this is not a biased opinion. BJJ, Judo, Wrestlers, etc. have proven to be more effective in cage matches, style VS. style, and on one on one confrontations, but in a real mean street fight I believe other martial arts could fare, if not better at least as much as those aforementioned styles

I agree that sport oriented martial arts like BJJ, wrestling, Judo, etc. can be very street effective (I do Judo), but you can't really say that cage matches are like a real street fight. There are many different factors. But like you have said, a good cage fighter should be good in the street and I agree. But I would raise the chances of some Karate and Kung Fu guys in the street compared to cage matches because of these external factors.

Muay Thai quite possibly has the best strikes. However, like some have pointed out without crosstraining it has weaknesses such as throws and ground techniques. What happens if a pure Muay Thai fighter fights a wrestler, a BJJ or Judo practioner which takes him down to the ground. His chances are pretty much over. Remember, I said IF he gets taken to the ground by a grappler. Another point, I don't think it is a dominant style, I believe the training that they have is what makes them sucessful, not the style. Mas Oyama Went and kicked some butt. If someone decided to train hardcore in some sort of Kung Fu, Karate, you name it, he would be as much a lethal weapon as a Muay Thai practitioner if not moreso.

I'd have to go for Jean-Yves Thériault. I know he's from where I live, Quebec, But he was a real champion, just about beat everyone he met, up and until he was old. Great champ

It's sometimes hard for an athlete to quit on a career that has brought so many highs and given you a legend status. This happens in every sport. I agree with you that Hollyfield should really quit, but I'm not sure he can by himself. Lennox Lewis did the right thing, but it's not the same for everyone. Hollyfield gave out his last real fight vs. Lennox Lewis in the second fight (which I actually thought he won). I think that was the last real bit of energy that was left in him. Let's not forget he always fought top contenders, unlike many other boxers who most of the times fought overmatched opponents (hummm Roy Jones - I'm not dismissing his talent though). I think the hard fights have taken their toll on good ol' Hollyfield.

I'm guessing Goergi has reached an age and a mindframe where the pure fighting abilities, and physical conditioning some martial arts can bring to you such as kickboxing/Muay Thai, boxing, etc. are not what he's searching for. When he says 'richer' I think he means spiritually richer, or internally, what a martial art can bring you not physically but internally. I respect that, I have not reached that point in my life and don't know if I will/want, but i can understand someone who wants to. Back when I did Wing Chun, my Sifu both teached wing chun and Tai Chi, so perhaps if Georgi still wants to practice a martial art for its physical and fighting abilitites and have at the same time something spiritual or more internal he should seek a dojo like this one.

I, like most of those who have replied, really don't see the point that no senseis or Sifus, etc. should teach their martial art if they are overweight. I carry about 20-30 lbs extra and I am fairly well conditioned. (2 times a week of Judo and 2 times a week of hockey). What about those big linemens in football. Do you think they are not in good physical condition? Try taking their place for an entire game (these guy's cardio amaze me). The sifu I had when I used to take Wing Chun did have a bit of extra weight, but he was very proficient (saw pictures of him, used to be fit), and one of my present Judo intructors is somewhat overweight but he is still a very competent teacher. When you get older you slacken off a bit and it's quite understandable. I get the point that you should show example. But should you dismiss these masters who have so much to give because they carry some extra weight??

To come back to the original topic, if you have brawls in your neighboorhood where you are attacked by more than one person, I would suggest a striking art. BJJ is very effective but I would prefer standing up as much as possible in a fight. In my opinion, for what concerns street fights, i believe BJJ is a great complimentary art, but I wouldn't choose it if I only had to pick one. Someone really gave a good advice early on in the post in that you should pick up a srtiking art with Judo. You sting him momentarily with a puch or kick (or finish him off if you can) and get in for a crushing throw that could very easily end up the fight. Judo is also good on the ground for your average Joe, so if you mix up a striking art with Judo I believe you're a pretty diversified street fighter.

I don't know anything about Tang Soo Do, but I know both Muay Thai and Wing Chun can be very effective in the street. Muay Thai for its devastating blows and the way it can handle shots, and Wing Chun for its speed, techniques, and nastiness. However, for Wing Chun to be very effective a practitioner must be very good. It seems simple to use, but you really need to become proficient in order to use it successfully. Too many wing chunners out there believe they have reached that stage and really haven't.