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how many wing tsun organizations are there? what is Wing Chun all about anyway? how do the techniques work? are they linear and fast forward or do they redirect the force? is there a form of competition in Wing Chun? where is the difference between Wing Tsun and Wing Chun? is there "one" wing chun that is trained by all instructors and sifu or is it like kung fu, that there are hundreds of styles and each different from one another? thanks in advance!! edit: i heard about LEUNG TING wing tsun... what is this? and do wing chun practicioners wear shoes? edit: what just came to my mind: is there kata in wing tsun? how would you characterize wing tsun? is this a "combat art" or are the internal aspects more important?

yeah, so how many kung fu styles are there? 500 maybe? and you've seen enough fights to judge that all of them dont work? since i dont suppose u to judge by individual, i guess you've more than one fight of each style. and against what style exactly did they fight? probably many of the styles, that are popular in the western world, and again, it'd be foolish to judge by only having seen one person fight. so what? you saw 500kung fu styles x 10individuals x 50 other arts x 10 individual opponents. this is a lot of fights you know. and i suppose you've seen those fights one street as well as in the ring, so that'd make twice as much. well in THAT case, i'm going to believe you that none of this thousands of year old kung fu * is all rubbish and wont ever work. yeah, good proof of what you said.

yeah... the good old nut kick. as to headkicks: a good hit to the head can certainly knock out an opponent, but it depends on what you are wearing an whether you can perform such a kick without having warmed up a bit. as for me, i dont walk around in my dobok outside the dojang. furthermore i think the targets are more important than the technique, unless its not well performed so it can be blocked/countered easily.

there are no dumb questions, although this comes quite close... j/k

you hear that Guyanson? go marry her

i dont think ANYONE would hit their chin with a bottle...

what more do you want? training under these circumstances is the best you can get, no matter what color this piece of cloth around you waist is.

yeah, interesting thread, but i if its the same either

anybody ever heard about this style? could someone tell me about it?

can anybody tell me about it? has it kata? are there belts? is it southern or northern style? emphasis on something? u think it is a) a good workout or b) a good fighting art? anything special about this style? are there weapons?

yeah, this kick sure is a great move. i have great respect to those that perform these cool looking moves. if you fail in learning how to perform this kick, u can stil rely on your posts in this forum to keep on making people mad

i am talking about this, btw: http://store6.yimg.com/I/kendobogu_1771_5261829

does any1 have experiences with hand strenghteners? do they work? are they worth the price?

are heavy vests such a good idea? i mean, inhowfar to they provide better training results? or do they just hurt your joints?

this thread has gone off topic for quite a while now anyway, so dont mind it. as far is i'm concerned, there are no belts in krav maga and you wear either ordinary sports wear or t-shirts with the school-logo or the kravmaga logo on it. there are no traditional uniforms like the korean dobok or the japanese gi. some instructors might tend to do testings in krav and give away belts, though.

yeah, i agree on your last statement, with quick attacks. but do you mean, if you were younger, u would learn an art (be it kung fu or whatever), that does not provide a self defense as good as your art, because u had more time to learn it? maybe i got this wrong. happy birthday, btw

crosstraining in Muay Thai and BJJ is favoured by many as being the best in the ring. since there is no particular reason for your training i guess there is nothing you are looking for in particular, right? in that case probably every style will do. it'll be best to go visit some classes at each or talk to the instructors and go see what the costs are. that were some of the reason why i picked the dojang i am now training at. remember that no style is better than another and that its most important that you feel comfortable with it, no matter what. good luck!!

actually i think you read it wrong, TJS. the question was not how to learn to fight in a short time, but how to inflict as much damage as possible in a short time. i think pressure points the way to go, though it takes long to learn how to hit them properly and stuff. and i dont know in what arts/system pressure points are an emphasis. in my TKD class we more often focus on the obvious targets like eyes, groin and throat.

yeah, maybe. but the ones i did see were pretty sure about them being shotokan practitioners - but maybe they learned something different with the name "shotokan". or their instructor did it differently, or whatever. not sure. anyways, its difficult to describe what i have seen and maybe we both mean the same lets get back to the thread however.

yeah, the one ring to rule them all i suppose

oh, is that so maybe i havent had enough experience in different dojangs, but at least WTF -> sport and ITF -> traditional is the way it oughta be. of course there are ITF schools that focuss very much on their kind of sparring (punching to head allowed etc), but this is a completely different 'sport' aspect of TKD as well,, although i agree with you: still sport orientated. as to the combat orientated WTF: never heard of any. i dont know too much about shotokan since i never trained in it, but from the few i know: while we in our ITF club use the sine wave, and the mass or our entire body to develope a good blow, some shotokan practicioners from what i've seen moved more directly toward the target (no sinewave) and didnt punch with their whole body. maybe i havnt seen enough of them to really judge. but of course there are similarities in strenght development like: trying to perform a perfect technique, take power from your hip, be fast etc...

yeah, whatever... lets come back to the thread. we will either see him prove on TV or not. just open a thread so we know what channel you are on and what tournament you are winning, that will do i guess.

ok, lets forget about it anyways: its true though that its hard to find a combat orientated TKD dojang and the old problem with the McDojangs not to forget... so if you dont want the sport TKD (wtf, the olympic style with no punching to heads etc) you should look for the traditional orientated ITF dojangs. shotokan karate has a completly different approach to things and they develope the strenght of techniques in a different way. differences, pro/cont etc are difficult to outline since its all up to the instructor.

yeah, tell me about it......... the nearest San Soo school is about 60km drive and the nearest Mantis school was 18km (an acceptable distance), closed soon after i found out about it the first time

yes indeed