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thats pretty good for such a short time - how much have you been doing per day when u started and how did you develope?

actually... not quite Taijutsu is the proper name for what most people call "ninjutsu". there are parallels between Taijutsu and JuJutsu, because 6 of the nine "schools" the taijutsu system consists of are JuJutsu. i only have some knowlegde of Budo Taijutsu, which is mainly very soft moves, and redirecting techniques. u dont meet your opponent with brute force.

my first choices were Kyuk Too Ki and Kung Fu San Soo. Sadly they r available almost nowhere in Germany. Muay Thai and Krav Maga would have been 2nd choice. since none of them is available in my area too, i choose my current dojang because the instructors are very nice and able and they have their own building - some of the other MA schools in the area train in the gym of local schools, which aint so convinient as an own dojang turned out that tkd is kinda cool as well and i enjoy training very much, but i'm still not completely satisfied.

dont make fun of him guys - i dont want to get hit either... at least if i dont have to although i think some sort of sparring is necessary if you really want to prepare yourself for an encounter. but do not get me wrong: in every fullcontact style, you wont START by getting pushed into a ring with an advanced student who is then going to beat you up. you start by learning techniques and getting ready for sparring and after that you are going to get hit on your head j/k

i dont find it odd at all and to me, being a basis to many other arts sounds like it has so many disadvantages, that almost everyone thought you gotta change something. but you can interprete it the other way around as well i guess: that many ppl thought there are very good elements in shoryn ryu sothat they use it...... there are many good styles missing in most of the listed ones - guess many forum members (including myself) do not have knowledge of all (/many) styles to really judge them.

welcome to the forums, i am sure theres one or two things u might learn here why dont you pay a visit to the introduction section?

that somehow sounds to me like what treebranch said... you need another art to round it. or shall i say, to be a hybrid fighter?

if you werent from NY, i'd say we visit the same class my instructors are very qualified and they want us to become perfect at what we do. nevertheless they know how to make a good joke. last week they showed us some self defense techniques. they gave a really good slow motion performance

ab wheel? sounds very much like tele-shopping crap to me...

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oh, 2500+ views of this thread the problem of different definitions are what made this thread complicated right at the beginning... i tried to make clear what i would like to talk about in one of the early pages, but who here really took the time and read the 16 pages (expect treebranch maybe, since he was in the discussion from the beginning)? i suppose noone... and who could blame them i can however repeat my definition: a fighting art should cover all ranges of fighting like kicking, punching, elbowing and ground range. like when a guy in a dark alley is about to jump at you from aside. EVERYthing could happen. maybe it comes to a fist fight, then you should know good punches. maybe he takes you by surprise and you are on the ground, so what now? a fighting art should cover that, too. and so on, and so on.... that is why i used the expression "complete system" earlier on, because many words (like fighting art) might be misleading. that was, what this thread should be about in first place. this was an interesting discussion though oh, and btw... please dont insult each other

for me its still difficult to believe that arnis is the choice for fast self defense for the reason stated above although i never had the chance to go try it out. i heard much good about it.

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do we speak about taking arnis as the only art or together with some other style?

dont be annoyed, but i'd say its very much up to the teaching methods. like many other arts, arnis is capable of developing a good martial artist. i dont know much aobut arnis really, but in contrast to many other arts you start with stick fighting/knife techniques and later train empty handed ones. since you dont carry around your arnis stick whenever your outside, i dont know inhowfar these stick-moves deliver a fast to learn self defense.

are we talking about Philipino KickBoxing or Yaw Yan by now? or are these the same

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if you want acrobatic flashy stuff you might wanna try modern Wushu or Vo Dao Viet Nam. in any case: i play the piano too (although i dont earn my money with it and i probably suck in comparison to you ) and did not have any trouble yet. if you fear that you could injure yourself so badly that you cant play at all/ cant play properly anymore: in a good martial arts class, injurys are rather rare. why dont you go get an insurance for your hands, just in case. ask your instructor about insurances!!

1. yes, here in germany every young man has to serve in the army for at least 10 months after having finished whatever school he went to. some people dont have to, when the a doctor says they are not able or when they already joined the border guard/the police or if they have two older brothers that already served in the army. women can volunteer for army service, but in contrast to men, they are not forced by law to do so. 2. there are different ways. you are asked you wish to do but there aint no guarantee. in case you just want to do your 10 month service, you have a choice between Navy, Air Force and Ground Troops. (like in any other army i guess...). then there are the normal "careers" that each of them offers, nothing extra ordinary. 3. actually yes, but actually... no the law says u have to serve for your country for a certain time. but for about 25 or something, this is also possible as a help in social facilities (care for old people, help in hospitals and whatsoever...). u gotta write an essay about why it is not possible for you to hold a gun/to kill/to serve in the army, which is not really a problem. since the cold war is over and germany is reunited again there is not much need for an army anymore so the need of recruits is not so urgent like it was 15+ years ago. official pages that might help (in case u understand german a bit): https://www.bundeswehr.de https://www.luftwaffe.de https://www.wehrdienst.de

what people mean with "fighting" very often differs in this forum. some mean 'fighting' in the ring (tournaments, rules etc) other mean the traditional 'art of war' and a minority like myself mean beat up this dude that wants to make trouble because he does not like your face. sorry, for the language, but thats basically what fighting on the street is about, while self defense for me means fend off an attack like shoulder/hand grab, and how to get out of certain situation (attack with stick, attack from behind) etc. when i say learn to fight, i mean learn how to handle a fight in all ranges. from kicking, elbowing, punching to closer contact. i think we have a different understanding of the word "fighting". that was what i wanted to say

yeah, wing chun and aikido are well for self defense. although i somehow get the impression u were not really serious about your list...

where exactly do you draw the line between self defense and fighting @jeff? since Munkyboy wants safety on the street, i guess the "fighting ability" that he wants is supposed to serve self defense purpose.

this was supposed to be a Jkd discussion and not a "i dont like sano"-thread... he has the same right to post his opinion as we all do. of course we all can post our opinion on his opinion, but we dont want this thread to be closed, do we?

i think JKD surely can be they way to go for some people who want to learn to defend themselves, but i know too few to judge whether its the way for me, too. besides, i sometimes have doubts that certain schools that state to be JKD (or any other art) do as they promise and bring the real stuff.

i recently heard this story... i dont know how many SanSoo schools are affected or whether its true or not. please just post your opinion and whether you think its true/crap and whether its many schools or few, that are run by these guys. in the early days, Jimmy H. Woo and his students practiced his new style 'Kung Fu San Soo'. the beginners training mainly consisted about intense power training and slow motion technique training. some guys didnt attend class regularly because the training was too intense and so they kept stuck in the slow motion techniques. after some time, they went away to open their on dojos and teach San Soo, but the only thing they knew were the slowmotion techniques. Jimmy did not seem to mind it... and now these guys train something with the name san soo that consists of slowly done techniques and they probably think you'll become a super deadly fighter. the end. so? what do you make of this? i gotta admit it kinda troubles me.