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Thanks MSPav, that's the point I'm trying to make. In a real fight you don't know who might jump in, Combat Martial Arts that are any good, teach how to handle multiple attackers, it's not always full proof, but it's better than nothing. As far as I know Grapplers are not trained to take on multiple attackers. If you rate a martial art on all around adaptability to any cituation, Ground fighting comes up really short. 1ONe Fighting made a good point, being a bouncer, the last place you want to end up is on the ground while your trying to control a situation, or kick someone out of the club or bar. Budo Taijutsu teaches stand up grappling as well as ground fighting, one of the schools is a body guard school.

Mixed martial arts isn't a Martial Art. The most complete Martial Art I've seen so far is Togakure Ninpo Taijutsu. Sure you can mix other arts together and costumize you own Martial Art, but how well will they all flow together? Maybe there are contradictions from Muy Thai to Kali, or Wing Chun to BJJ? If you learn unarmed techniques that you practice over and over and then a weapon is put into your hand and you have to throw those unarmed techniques out the window, I'd say it's not an efficient way to learn Martial Arts.

From what I have seen, if you want to study weapons techniques, with a large variety of weapons, Ninpo Taijutsu covers the most I've seen in conjunction with unarmed techniques, check it out.

That's terrible, I'm sorry to hear that.

There are certain things you can do in competition fights you can't do in Combat, there are rules and there should be it's a Sport. These fighters are great don't get me wrong, just as great as Lennox is in Boxing etc. You seem like you want to train for competition fighting and not everyone studies Martial Arts for that reason. I watched UFC, Pride fights, lots of them, there awesome. I also see restraint from these fighters cause you can see they had an opening and didn't take it, because it was against the rules. If they had taken the opening, rules or not they would have ended the fight. As a result of holding back they lost, to a submission or a knock out. They are not "miracle" techniques and neither are BJJ techniques. I'll make you a deal, I'll start studying BJJ, if you study Budo Taijutsu.

Ahh, it's not the just fingers I'm talking about and besides it's the physics behind this techniques that make them effective not the pain of bending someones finger back. I don't plan on fighting Mike Kerr or Rigan, but my teacher has sparred with some of the Machado Bros. and they were impressed. I'll learn BJJ, if you learn Budo Taijutsu.

Hammer blows are good too. Open hand strikes are used along with punching both effective in the right situation. Learn both, know more.

Strikes are not always designed to knock people out, some are designed to knock them off balance or to create distance for a knock out strike or what ever else presents itself. O.K. I know what video your talking about, if Rigan knew hanbo techniques and didn't throw his stick away there are alot of techniques you can do on the ground with stick. He could have held his stick between the other persons stick and the hand holding the stick and squeezed and he would have gotten the guy off on him and he would have control of the opponents weapon and the opponents hand in a vice.

Not if they don't know about it. Plus wrestlers never use small joint manipulation, and they want to take the fight to the ground, so they know the ground, they don't study close range striking etc. Go to a reputable Budo Taijutsu master and ask if he knows counters to grappling and try them out, it may surprise you.

Maybe 10 or so in the past, recently I'm pretty good at diffusing the situation by telling her how pretty she looks. Oh, you mean fist fights, yeah, like 10 or so. I used San Soo several times and it works nicely, it's scary when someone lands a front kick to your gonads, followed by a hammer blow to the nose. Most of the time, that works great.

Mohamed Ali and Lennox Lewis.

The sprawl is an effective way to counter a shoot, but not the only way. If you think there is only one option to a shoot in by a wrestler than I would study other Martial Arts that don't fight in competitions, maybe they have techniques you haven't seen before. Maybe you will learn techniques that will widen your options, just a thought.

Well you have to study Budo Taijutsu to understand that. Plus the person with stick was a little to confident that he would win, we are taught to bait the attack and move off line when you strike, you don't stand right in front of someone when they are attacking you, and you go with the attacker not against them, this is the big mistake people make over and over. Also with proper Taijutsu the strike would be a lot more effective and more than likely break the arm he blocked with. Budo Taijutsu does have grappling, a clinch does happen we love the clinch, there are a lot of very dirty and effective strikes and take downs that can be executed at close range that most people don't even think about, do you really think there were no grapplers in the warring periods of Japan?, and do you really think in those life and death situations that there were no counters to grapplers. Hatsumi was trained by his Master that fought in death matches, there is no better proof of art then one that was effectively used in Combat, the stuff that didn't work died on the battle field, only the techniques that worked were passed on. Please don't look at Budo Taijutsu with the Hollywood Ninja stigma.

JohnnyS take a close look at Togakure Ninpo Taijutsu, What an embarassment to the dog brothers, they should learn Hanbo techniques to add to there arsenal. I would pity someone shooting in on me if I have a stick in my hand, sticks can be used for more than just batting someone away. I'd like to see a grappler shoot in on Master Hatsumi while he's holding a stick, they would get recked. BJJ is not designed for Combat, what the enemies fellow soldiers are going sit and watch a grappling match? I studied Kung Fu San Soo and I am currently studying Budo Taijutsu, both are Combat Arts. In Budo Taijutsu the thing they tell us over and over "STAY UPRIGHT" at all costs or at least be in a position where you can see around you, the ground is not this place. If it goes to the ground we have really nice grappling techniques as well, very surprisingly good ones. I wouldn't expect anything less than an art that's been evolving for the last 1000 years.

If you're cross training that's cool, so you would have to go to several different schools at one time and pay 3 different schools to learn 3 different styles. It's good if you want to be a MMA fighter. If you just want to learn a very, very complete Martial Art, study Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu, learn nine styles in one, it's also fun for boys and girls.

Good advice, ad.

My buddy said Kajukenbo was used by the Mafia in Hawaii, and is very dirty. I was showing him some Budo Taijutsu techniques and he really like them, he has studied Kajukenbo in Hawaii for many years. I think it's good to look at all martial arts to see the similarities and differences.

Martial Arts developed specifically for the Battle Field, most likely in pre-fire arm periods of Japan, China, or where ever. Combat is different from Competition, your life is on the line in one, not your fighting career. Most Sport Martial Arts don't teach weapon techniques and in Combat you use weapons and should know how to counter weapons.

BJJ is the most famous and successful MA for MMA competition, but not by itself, mix it with a little Muy Thai and you have a lovely recipe for a successful competition fighter. Combat is a whole different ball of wax, I don't think anyone in their right mind would say BJJ is the most effective Combat Martial Art, that is not so. In the arena of Combat Martial Arts it's still a baby, give it time, we will see.

Throat strikes can be deadly, but it depends on the situation, I don't think going for a throat strike right off the bat is a good idea. If your aim is to kill someone with your hands, punching the person to death isn't very efficient. Get in back of the person and strangle them with a triangular choke or something like that, you can break the trachea easier by applying pressure to it. Trying to strike the throat is tough unless the opportunity presents itself, if it does take it.

I have a few suggestions, Aikido, Budo Taijutsu, Atemi Ryu Jujitsu, seems like you are still interested in Martial Arts, so take your time and check them all out. Good luck.

Barking dogs don't bite, if you had felt he really wanted a fight, hit him when he's talking his crap, hit him when his mouth is open.

I agree with TJS, Muay Thai and BJJ are one of the most proven combos for competition fighting.

Wing Chun said "yeah it cant cover every possible scenario. infact that would be a weakness to learn how to get out of every situation in a fixed way. its about learning concepts and principles that would suffice at every situation." That's exactly what Togakore Ninpo Taijutsu teaches, the principles and concepts suffice every situation, and it covers weapons, using them and defending against them. Some Martial Arts are just more complete than others, better or not better is a matter of taste, not a matter of fact. Your right sometimes there isn't time to read what to do, but if there is time, know how.

I don't think Jeet Kune Do is the greatest Martial Arts ever created. I think if he lived longer to really develop it, then maybe that claim could be made. I think MA's created during real warring periods(pre-firearm) are the most effective, they had to use their skills to survive. There is no better teacher than the battle field. I saw some films where Bruce was fighting, and he was really fast, but I think someone bigger and stronger with grappling skills could of destroyed him.