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I have the fight on tape, I've watched it several times. It was UFC 5 or 6 the early fights. Pavement is harder than a ring, yes? I take it, you never watched this fight.

All I know is that Hoyce would have lost against Kimo if it were on the street. That guy less skill or not was throwing Hoyce around like a rag doll. If you replaced the canvas with pavement Kimo would have destroyed him.

Who said anything about them being unarmed, I said no guns. Unarmed fighting in conjunction with weapons training is how most warriors were taught. The unarmed skills come in handle with close range fight when weapons. If you didn't know, in the battle field, in pre-gun eras, warriors clashed and grappled with their weapon. They used there sword to lever you down so they could finish you and move on. They didn't slap swords together until one of them was struck, that took to long.

So I should get bigger to be better? Tyson fought some giants, and won.

Thanks, I can't argue with you there. I think Martial Arts no matter what style is fascinating, to think some people or someone came up with these really clever ways of fighting. It's great.

The Battle field WAS a better teacher, than the ring will ever be. Meaning Martial Arts that were used on the battle field in times when there were no GUNS. Those martial arts were used for survival on the battle field when life is on the line, not a title. Many more factors to take into consideration than just one person. You had to kill or be killed, a little more on the line don't you think? Oops, I not talking about modern warfare here, in modern warfare you will have little use for Martial Arts.

The battle field was a better teacher, than the ring ever will be.

No, I think you misunderstood. Hypothetically speaking if the small fighter and the big fighter were of the same exact skill, and the big one wins, what does that say about that Martial Art? For example there is a reason for weight classes in competition fighting, like boxing, Why? Does size matter in certain styles of Martial Arts?

Sure I agree with you, but as we have seen a wrestler can usually defeat a boxer. I studied Lima Lama Kickboxing and Tae Kwon Do, and currently I am studying Taijutsu which covers grappling. So basically I agree with you. I'm not looking to compete in MMA, if you are I think it's great, I hope I see you fight some day. I study for different reasons, but when I watch MMA competitions I see a lot of opportunities some of these guys aren't taking advantage of. Some of these guys do and those guys are usually the good ones. I'm all about learning new things, but if I'm going to really learn my art I have to dedicate my time to it, and not spend all my time trying to learn a little of everything that is popular out there.

No belt, just knowledge.

Do sit ups, lots of them and don't depend on your muscles(your bodies natural armer) to protect you. Your greatest weapon is your mind, move.

Hung Gar is what I feel around 6:30PM, dinner time.

If two Martial Artists study the same style, and are of equal skill and the only difference is one of them is bigger and stronger, and the stronger one always wins. What does that say about that Martial Art? What Martial Arts do you think fall into this catagory?

What a turn on. I'll tell you if all women studied Martial Arts, men would be on there best behavior all the time. I'm teaching my daughters how to fight, watch out guys.

Well if you make it a habit of fighting on the street, your a streetfighter. Or if you fight with the street, I guess.

So your saying, you have to know boxing to fight a boxer? You have to know Muy Thai, to fight a Muy Thai fighter? It's much more than remedial antigrappling, and I agree with you learning other techniques are necessary to learn. That is what we do. I don't plan on fighting Belfort on the street, I know better. I advise you to take your own advice as well, break the habit, you may be surprised.

King of fighters said: "See, every range and aspect of fighting is covered. This combo covers punches, kicks, knees, elbows, grappling, clinching, groundwork, chokes, armbars, joint locks, pressure points, street defence, weapon use, weapon defence, pratical fighting skills, throws, takedowns, foot sweeps, and all types of blocks, and it probebly has even more. I dont think that you could find many defaults that with this combo except that it would cost a lot of time and money." Well I don't have a lot of money, and Budo Taijutsu has nine schools that cover everything you mentioned, so I guess if One Martial Art covers all of what you mentioned it must be pretty good, right?

Some traditional schools have a tradition of evolving with the times, and learning techniques from other styles in order to always have the advantage of knowledge. Some modern styles are just as narrowminded as traditional ones, and over time the modern styles become a tradition.

What's traditional mean to you guys?

Started at 8, now I'm 34.

There a nine schools of fighting in Ninpo Taijutsu, 3 of them are Ninjitsu skills, the other seven are fighting and weapons. All nine come in handy, but my goal is not to be a Ninja. It's a lot to learn, but that's what I like about it. That's Ninpo Taijutsu for you, studying the weaknesses and strengths of other MA's to evolve even more, that's what it's always being about.

Well they were doing it wrong then. Usually locks are applied right after a good strike, the idea is your brain can't concentrate on two things at once. They weren't putting their bodies behind it, they probably aren't being taught the right way.

You were never taught what to do if your grabbed by more than one person? There are things you can do to free yourself you know. I've seen it done by people who don't know how to fight.

JohnnyS said, "I've seen Ninjitsu and I'm not impressed." It's very likely what you saw wasn't Togakure Ninpo Taijutsu, there are a lot of imposters out there trying to make money off the Ninja craze from the 80's. I didn't get into this martial art so I could sneak around wearing black tights, killing people. Or to tell people that I'm a Ninja, that's silly. I study it because I found it to be very intelligent and complete. I studied Lima Lama and Tae Kwon Do for many years, it's cool, but limited mostly to striking and kicking. Plus I wanted to learn how to use weapons, it's my interest.

BJJ can't make that guarantee either, because they don't teach that, they teach one on one fighting. Kung Fu San Soo and Budo Taijutsu and most Combat Fighting Arts do. I've my own personal stories about multiple attackers, and if I had let myself go to the ground, I wouldn't be chatting with you right now. Also I've seen people attacked by more than one person and the guy fell with the other to the ground, BIG MISTAKE!!! I'm not dissing BJJ as an art, it's great. If you train on the ground, your good on the ground. If you train against multiple attackers, your better off than not training against multiple attackers, right?