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Metamorph said: So we agree, crosstraining is best for Competition. So if a MA has both good grappling and stand up skills already in it, than it's best as a complete art. MMA is Martial Arts not a Martial Art, the thread is there's no best Martial Art. I think there are Martial Arts out there that are best for the Street and Combat, and Martial Arts that are best for the ring. Your saying if it's not in Pride or UFC it's not valid or effective? Give me a break.

Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu incompasses all five elements. Everything comes from the void, and the element depends on the situation at hand. Most often you will be utilizing more than one element at any given time.

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There are styles of MA that have grappling and striking in it's repretoire. There are MA's that are more complete than others, to make the assumption that Mixing MA's is the best, is biased. Mixing MA's is better for what? For competition? Yes. For Combat? No.

Best for Competition, or best for the street, or best for Combat, or best for your health? If you break them down like this maybe we might get somewhere. Just because a fighter is Champion in a certain style doesn't mean that style is the best, the fighter is. This fighter might be just as effective if he or she had trained in a different style as well. But there are MA's that are better at some things than others.

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SevenStar wrote: These are exactly the assumptions people make, smaller, weaker, Aikido, Hapkido. Bigger, Stronger, Judo, Muy Thai. I think a big guy will be really effective in Aikido and Hapkido also. Smaller people may not be as effective as big people in Judo or Muy Thai. So if Aikido and Hapkido in your opinion are better for smaller, weaker people, than what makes you think they wouldn't be effective for bigger, stronger people. I don't understand.

No it's not Shan Shou, which is very cool. I've seen a few Cung Le fights, very impressive. San Soo is a Combat Martial Art.

Just wondering if anyone else has studied San Soo, and what did you think of it?

Jet Li.

I fought 7 guys at once in elementary school. I can't say I won the fight, but I survived.

Find a Martial Art that best compliments your character. Study a Martial Art that appeals to you, even if it may not be the most popular one.

The think I like the best about Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu is the endless possibilites.

I personally think if the kid is exceptional in his or her skills, why not? It can't hurt to give this person a black belt if they deserve it. Also I think if the Instructor thought it was right to give the belt to the student, who are we to question the decision that was made? It's not the fault of the student if the teacher is deceiving the student, if it is a deception to inspire younger students to stay in the class. Hopefully the student will live up to the BB and excel. I am skeptical about young Black Belts, but usually Black Belts signify the student is a level of proficiency to learn more advanced technique, it doesn't measure the lethality of the practitioner.

If you rely more on strength than you do on your skills and techniques, you are sure to lose. The point being strength can be used against someone if your techniques are refined, which I think you know. People are always advising small people to take MA's like Aikido and Tai Chi, but the fact is if these Arts are effective for small people, they must be effective for big people also. There is this preconceived idea that MA's that are hard, are more effective than so called soft forms of Martial Arts. Soft forms are all about refining your technique to a point where strength is not really a factor, since your using the attackers strength against them. Hard forms are in fact more effective when practiced by bigger and stronger people (that's why they have weight classes). So if this is true that big people are more effective at Hard forms, than the effeciency of the techniques taught are better suited for strong people. Since the Soft forms are not relying on Strength, than logic will tell you that everyone, big, strong, small, thin can all be effective if they refine their technique in a Soft form of Martial Art. So basically I doubt most people practicing MMA's will be studying MMA into their old age. By MMA I mean they will probably pick one of the Arts in their MMA repertoire, the one that relies more on technique than on strength, like BJJ for example. So when you say MMA or Traditional, I say Traditional will be good if you plan to continue MA into you old age and The Harder Forms are more for the young. I don't think that's saying anything bad, do you?

SevenStar said: The thread say Traditional or MMA? I say if you plan on studying Martial Arts your entire life, even into old age, you probably won't be studying MMA (Key word Mixed Martial Arts). The Arts where a stronger person excels faster than a smaller, weaker person means that the techniques being taught rely more on strength than technique. So what I'm saying is that Combat Styles of Martial Arts seem to emphasize more on techniques than strength. Sport Arts like in any sport, being athletic is a very important part of these Art forms. I'm not putting them down, I think these Art forms are great for competition, which I am a huge fan of. But if I am to study Martial Arts into my old age, I would prefer to study something that the core emphasis is on technique and not focus primarily on agility and strength. It seems that you are misinterpreting what I am saying, and you are agreeing with me to a certain extent. I say this because of the MA's you listed above. Judo though you have to admit a heavy person is going to be more effective than vice versa. Have you seen the effects that Muy Thai has on the joints and legs when these guys get old, or boxing? Look at Ali and other Boxers who got hit in the head too many times.

I don't think there many 80 year old masters who can woop on all the MMA bullies, some of them maybe. 50-60 year old master more likely can woop a good many MMA bullies. You should see my Kung Fu Sansoo Sifu, pretty scary at 65. If someone is just a mixed martial arts practitioner, and not a high ranking competitor, My Sifu will destroy them. Just because people have seen MMA effective in the hands of great fighters like Kerr, Belfort, Tito Ortiz, Ruas and such. It doesn't mean anyone who studies MMA is going to be able take on a Master in a so called "Traditional Martial Art." By the way 80 is pretty old, I never said 80.

I think everyone should help if someone is in trouble. Even if it's something as simple as calling the police or calling for help. The other night it was pretty late. I heard a women screaming at the top of her lungs, Help me! Somebody Help me! So I grabbed my cane sword and rushed out towards the street. I could feel my adrenaline starting to pump. When I finally got there, the women was in a cop car. I guess she was a little batty, and they were taking her somewhere. I have to get myself a jo or a hanbo, I hate to think what could of happened if would have had used the cane sword. Yuk.

Blue Dragon said: You live in a great city. I wish Los Angeles allowed that, I'd challenge all these posers we have here in Hollywood. You have no idea how full of it most of these Hollywood types are out here.

TJS said: You don't realize what I'm trying to say. If a Martial Art is effective when your old, it is effective when your young as well. Certain Martial Arts are only effective when your young, they concentrate on strength, speed, and indurance more so than technique. Krav Maga is a Combat Style or Street effective Martial Art, it is completely practical and realistic in it's application. I'm sure your instructor is a deadly guy, that's the point I'm trying to make. Sport Martial Arts age out, meaning they are no longer effecient when you get too old. Comprende?

No all I'm saying is that you can cover more distance walking, than you can by running. I'm trying to relate MA's to your analogy.

I personally think if Kimo has been training in any kind of grappling, he can definitely beat him now. Kimo is an animal.

Martial Artist said, "I don't think you make it an absolute that you WILL get cut. I think you must mentally prepare for getting cut and accept that there is a good chance for it. But it is not an absolute that you will get cut. My brother and I have been fortunate enough not have been cut in either of our fights. Not even a little scratch. " Yeah, I agree. You must mentally prepare yourself for getting cut. I meant accepting it give you no choice but to do what you have to.

All of the fake Ninjutsu instructors that are making Ninjutsu look bad.

I pound him into the ground with elbow strikes and hammer blows to the head and nose. If is hair was long enough I'd use it to pound his head into the ground. Whatever it takes, I have to assume his intent in to kill.