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You have no idea what kind of training I've had and I would like to keep it that way. Never, ever underestimate your opponent and don't think you have all the answers, that is your weakness. Keep training hard and if you really want to win a fight, buy a gun, martial arts is a discipline an art, you do it your way and I'll do it mine. I know how to use my stances and stances are transitional, not poses to take after a strike, keep moving or you will be taken. You can train all you want, but if you are being taught wrong, I don't care how much you spar, you will be ineffective. Sorry the truth hurts.

Yeah, whatever dude, think what you want, just be careful out there. Your overconfidence in your art can be a your downfall. BJJ guys are getting their asses kicked in UFC all the time now , so don't think you've found the ultimate martial art cause you haven't. You are completely biased in your opinions and can't see the forest from the trees. You have no respect for combat arts and that's a good thing, the less you know, the more I know, and you are the disadvantaged one. Good luck with your training, the ignorant are truley bliss.

I guess none of you guys have studied Combat Arts, I myself have sparred full contact in Boxing, Karate, and in street fights. I know what you are saying, but I'm not just talking about eye gouging and biting. There are things in Combat Arts you'll just have to see for yourself, go seek out a school that teaches this and be opened minded, then get back to me. I myself am going to study BJJ to add to my arsenal, I suggest wholistic training over only knowing one style.

SevenStar wrote: "Whether it's intended to be a sport art or combat art doesn't matter much IMO. They can be used either way. If I throw someone with tsuri komi goshi and he lands on his head and is knocked out, who cares if judo is a sport? Also, I don't think completeness is what makes it take long to master. BJJ is not complete, and it will take you a LONG time to master that. Heck, you may go for over a year without even seeing your FIRST promotion." I didn't say that Sport Arts could not be used for combat, but Combat Styles are better equiped for combat. That is why a Combat Art is a Combat Art, I encourage you to learn some Combat Martial Art to see for you self, to add to your arsenal. By the way certain Martial Arts do take longer to learn than others, that's a fact jack.

Very well said Martial, I agree with you that one should arm themselves with every weapon they have. Some weapons leave at greater risk than others, especially with a grappler.

Does a fencer thrust with his body behind his sword or with his arm only? Larger weapons are used to thrust also, Kendo has thrusting moves also. Katanas are not only designed to slash and bash thrust attacks are part of kenjutsu and Iiado. I encourage you to seriously observe a fencing match and watch the legs and hips. The mechanics in any proficient Martial Art is basically the same, slight tweaks here and there but pretty much the same. "You may strike a nail the same way you cut a steak, but the rest of us do not." Carpentry and Culinary Arts have their specific way of doing things, and so does Martial Arts and yes fencing is a Martial Art.

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I welcome high kicks, I like it. If the opponent is relatively my height and we are sparring or competing, why not. But I'm not about to under estimate someone in a street fight and throw my leg way up there for him to grab it. I agree it's good to have more weapons in your arsenal, but you have to admit that your balance can easily be taken when kicking to the head. At least I find it really easy to take someones balance when they're on one foot.

So you're right, and I will stop PERSUING UNINFORNED RANT. OK, feel better, now breath with me, inhale, exhale, all is good in the world. Well you made me realized that I could probably jack a military guy as long as he's away from his gun. Thanks, JerryLove.

Are you talking about Kendo? If you are, you're exactly right. The sword and the fist are the same, the body mechanics are the same, why should they be different? I guess you didn't get anything from my post, speech or not.

You're right, my bad. I don't know how I misinterpreted that, some how I did. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah if I was Bruce Lee I would say that too, but I not. I'm much bigger, heavier, and not quite as flexable. You should have to be an acrobat to fight, not everyone is fit for that. There other kicks like the one I mentioned that almost anyone can do effectively. I've seen that kick used in UFC and it recked the other guy, why more people don't use this kick is beyond me. It doesn't look fancy that could be why, you don't see it on TV, that could be why, but it works beleive me it works. I look forward to someone trying to kick me with a high kick, they've just given me a beautiful gift.

"Be like water my friend." Bruce Lee said that I think. Anyway, correct body mechanics are correct body mechanics, whether your Wing Chun, Karate, Boxing, Baseball Player, Golfer. There is such thing as good form and no matter how strong you are you should with the correct body mechanics throw a devastating blow. I don't think hitting the wall proves anything in a "REAL" fight. I could punch through boards and drywall when I was 8 years old, could I knock out an adult male when I was 8? Probably not. Why punch knuckles, why waste time doing that if you can just finish your opponent quickly?

Well in the Tradition of Budo Taijutsu using the hips while keeping your back or Spine perpendicular to the ground and moving your entire body as one unit when you strike, makes the strike much more powerful than just using the strength of your arms. It takes a while to learn this and most styles don't even touch on this, certain Arts lost these basic but crucial technique over time, but if you incorporate this understanding into any of the Arts including Boxing your punches wll be more effective and you will use less energy.

So basically the"HORSE STANCE" is Traditional and Transitional, thanks for the enlightenment SevenStar. I think maybe right about the horse stance, it's possilbe my Karate teacher wasn't a very good teacher. Sometimes you can have someone who is really proficient at Martial Arts, but can't teach it to save his life.

Thanks Iron Arahat, how do you think Cung would do in UFC? I think he would get recked.

JerryLove said "That said, it would be wrong to think that the millitary trains hand-to-hand in order to teach specific skills... they don't. What about Navy Seals?, Army Rangers?, Green Berets?, Special Ops?, Etc.... JerryLove said "And yet the Chinese millitary, even in weapon work, does not allow the groin as a target because it's "dishonorable". Are you kidding with us, where did you get this info from? Also if we are talking about the Military in General than you would have to research all Military training from around the world to make your huge generalizations be true. Many career soldiers in the US armed forces train in martial arts, and probably have more time to do so than you or I, think about it.

Kung Fu Sansoo is Chinese Combat Fighting, it is very effective and in a short time a soldier can kick some serious, well you know. It is a very quick and hard hitting Art and very, very brutal. Are their any other Sansoo practitioners on this site? I feel like I'm the only one talking about it.

Kicks are always more risky especially kicks higher than the waist. Taijutsu stomp kicks are very effective, and very powerful. This kicks are mostly used to create distance between you and the attacker. These kicks are mostly used when you are in your opponents blind spot, and if you target the hip and direct the kick downwards and follow it through, you'll put them on their bum. I think kicks in general are very effective and should be used when your opponent can't see where they're coming from or else it could risky.

Has anyone heard of Cung Le he's the world champion Sanshou Fighter, pretty incredible fighter. Has anyone seen Sanshou Fights? Where did they originate? If anyone knows, I think it would be interesting to discuss.

Well said Kajusan! My Budo Taijutsu instructor takes full contact blows to the sternum, he sort of moves in slightly snuffing the blow. I've hit him pretty hard, I weigh close to 240lbs and can throw a pretty devastating blow, he didn't even flinch. The board breaking training was designed to penetrate armor and rattle the person inside, if you really want to know if you can break bones or a sternum with a punch, buy a dead cow or a pig and hit that.

Some Arts are more complete than others, this is a fact. You have to ask yourself why was this style created. Was it created for Combat? Was it created for Competition? Was it a Combat Style that became a Sport because of disuse? The Europeans had their own Martial Arts that were lost due to the invention of the gun. The Greeks and Romans had theirs, Alexander the Great was an expert Martial Artist, his style was very similar to the Asian Arts. There are many styles of martial arts and they are all effective if used wisely, the average Joe is at a great disadvantage when going up against a trained Martial Artist of any Style. But some Arts are more complete than others and take a longer time to master, it's all up to the individual.

I didn't know Chinese Styles called it horse stance, there's something in Japanese called "kamae" which basically means stance. You can go in and out of Kamae for power and stability, it is almost identical to Kung Fu stances, but it is not like a horse stance. I agree you can build strength by holding a horse stance for long periods of time, but a ready fighting position is definitely not a horse stance. Well other styles don't break boards and they are just as effective.

Thanks, I appreciate that SevenStar.

Kung Fu Sansoo, Budo Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Kajukenbo, Krav Maga, Atemi Ryu Jujitsu, and most of the arts that don't have "do" at the end of it. By the way does anyone know if any Kajukenbo fighters have entered UFC or Pride?