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then why did they call him a "pressure point striker" but yes he also trained in Karate. he was a multi time judo champion and also a jiu jitsu champion...but not bjj.

streetfighters punch people in the face.

Lets destroy this argument real quick shall we... Bob Sapp has trained with several world class fighters including Mo Smith and Josh Barnett. he has also won two of his fights by submission..one by arm bar and one by guillotine. No goldberg is a fictional character and dosent really fight. he knows pro wrestling holds..not real submissions. and on top of that Sapp is alot bigger and stronger than goldberg.

I would bet every penny to my name that if you set Mark kerr or Mark coleman or about a dozen other wrestlers in front of them they would get double leged in a hearbeat. You cant Chi Glue yourself to the floor...sorry.

go watch bob sapp fight...he weigh 400 pounds and has a sick pack...he is a superhuman freak and he also got arm bared in his fight against antonio rodrigo noguiera

im sure there mountain monks hidden away that could destroy us all.

Im just pointing out that it's likely to build very bad habits. and yes I spar with groin kicks as well as leg kicks.

George dillman wrote an article in Black belt magazine about how a "pressure point striker" could walk through the competition at the UFC..Luckily they gave him a chance to show everyone. Go rent UFC 7 and watch his top student Ryan Parker Get thrown and Choked out in the first round by a judoka name Remco Pardoe.

Sparring without punches to the head or kicks below the waist has some negative impacts for A few reason. A)one of the best targets in a real fight is somenes head..you should get good at hitting it. B) the most practical kicks are kicks below the waist. C) 99% of people in a street fight will be tryin to punch YOU in the head. It's a good idea to get used to that and get used to defending against it. Your engraving some bad habits into your fight game. You cant expect to train one way and rely on completly diffrent techniques under a stressful violent situation.

what are the rules when you spar?

If you Train Realistically. Do you do katas and point/touch sparring? or do you spar with limited rules and descent contact? Do you do Scenario drill's? Sometimes it will actually decrease you self defense abilitys if the school is instilling False confidece and Useless techniques/training meathods.

Lets take a look at the Current UFC champions and contenders to see how many of them are Jiu jitsu guys. Heavweight Champion-Tim Sylvia-Very well rounded and proabably has some solid jiu jitsu skills but prefers to standup and strike and wins almost all of his fights by KO or TKO. Light Heavyweigh champion-Tito Ortiz- A wrestler with vicous ground a pound who rarely if ever goes for a submission even though he is well versed in them, he prefers to pin you against the fence and unleash knees/elbows and punches untill you look like you got beat up with a baseball bat. Interim Light heavyweigh champion- Randy Couture- World class Greco Roman wrestler with some sold boxing skills who also prefers the "ground and pound meathod" Middle weight belt is vacant since Murillo Bustamante left the UFC, he would have been consiered a jiu jitsu expers with some solid standup. -Runner up it Matt Liddland who is an olympic wrestler and that about it.. -Second place Phil Baroni who has devestating hands and is also a pretty good wrestler. Welterweight Champion is Matt hughes- also well versed in Jiu jitsu and has solod standup but he is an amazingly strong wrestler who like to slam people and hurt them on the ground. Runner up-Pete Spratt -Muay thai fighter with Vicious kicks and quick hands. Lightweight also has a vacant belt but out of the top 4 i would say 2 are jiu jitsu stlye fighters and 2 are "strikers" Anyone Calling the UFC a glorified jiu jitsu tournament is speaking out of complete ignorance and needs to open their eyes and look at the facts.

Really it's nothing at all like a jiu jitsu tournament in any way shape or form. Alot more fight in By KO,TKO, ref stoppage, Decision than by submission these days. Most of the rules today are to keep it from becoming a grappling match.

welcome to last month

there is very little money unless you are an elite fighter.

Thats fine, but im telling you you are wrong. it's not an opinon thing it's a fact. But like Johnny said they are more ground striking and strikes to setup takedowns etc. elbows, headbutts, kicks..

Wrong I have a Gracie himself show me several strikes from various positions both standing and on the ground. AS far as BJJ being a complete art, it isint, very few are. there are lots of stlyes that cover most areas of the fight game and do a good job of it. But while BJJ may lack in some areas what it is good at is getting someone into their game. Boxing is far from complete but a boxer will proabably still knockout most guys in a street brawl.

Btroadman post sums it up well. Imi Was a Boxer/wrestler and did some judo/jiu jitsu so obviously some influences from those systems can proabably be seen. I dont know of any ninjitsu influences.

I doubt you will find anyone here who has trained in both. They both have the same goal in most cases(relistic self defense/fighting) however from what i have seen they have very diffrent meathods and techniques. Athough I dont know too much about san soo, I will say that Krav Maga will likely give you the same results you would be seeking with san soo.

oncce again your they migh back off but chances are if they really want to hurt you they arent going to back off after a few swings.

If your assuming you fighting someone who is not larger than you and/or someone who can not take punishment and has no fight experince alot of fight may end quickly but dont always expect to face someone who will drop the first tiem you hit them. I see some fights end in a few seconds and i see other go on for several minutes..depends on who is fighintg.

Yep. But still not an excuse not to train for the ground as you well know. Yes I agree 100% ...the fact is alot of fights do go to the ground at one point... but i dont think 90% do.

I heard that 99% of them start standing up.

the only chance sapp has it to use his size to just bull rush him and trap him in a corner and pound away. But that's very unlikely and Tyson has about a 90% chance of knocking him out in the first minute imo.

Here is how to really take someone out of their element http://www.pixi.com/~mcjitsu/mizujitsu/mizujitsu.html