jiu-jitsu fighter

"unless you want to go to the ground,you're not going to" I beg to differ.

well thats the thing , bjj is classified into two styles really, sport and vale tudo , now at my school its in between so im not really concerned about that. also there is a combat submission wrestling class at my school they strike on the ground but im not allowed joining that class yet, because im only sixteen. I would think that being well versed in jiu-jitsu that would be my advantage on the street. i mean your not going to encounter mma fighters on the street, (hopefully) so if the guy starts striking you on the ground he (probably) won't know what the hell your doing, than bang! when he throws a punch kimura,armbar,triangle etc... in my bjj class if we were to strike on the ground we would get really f******* because even though we don't do striking on the ground we know how to defend against strikes on the ground.

I think brazilian jj and muay thai, the combination of them both is the perfect martial art, because of muay thais striking(and clinch work) and bjj's crazy grappling and ground fighting. This combination is fantastic. I also have the utmost respect for jeet kune do, which is a complete martial art. sorry, way of no ways.

ya he should of said bjj or brazilian jj

im 59, 140 and i also study bjj, i had the same problem as you, thats when i started working really hard on escaping bad positions, and i learned alot of cool stuff at seminars, like armbar from guard,if he pulls out his arm, go to omoplata, than keep his arm, roll back to guard and you have a triangle waiting for you. you have to be quick and agile and work on your flexibility, and work on your sweeps, while the bigger guys will be working on subs.and chokes, because they don't have trouble, you will become better than them at the stuff that really matters. positioning,because you can't get a submission before you get a position. one thing i like to do is attempt a kimura from guard than take the back. or knee on stomach than move to 69 position and take kimura. when your opponent has the advantage you have to think 2 steps ahead of him. "okay if i move this way i expose my back, but if i move this way i can get this...." trial and error will prove to be usefull. and you have to spar more than 15 minutes a class, we do 30 minutes of sparring every class.

im 59, 140 and i also study bjj, i had the same problem as you, thats when i started working really hard on escaping bad positions, and i learned alot of cool stuff at seminars, like armbar from guard,if he pulls out his arm, go to omoplata, than keep his arm, roll back to guard and you have a triangle waiting for you. you have to be quick and agile and work on your flexibility, and work on your sweeps, while the bigger guys will be working on subs.and chokes, because they don't have trouble, you will become better than them at the stuff that really matters. positioning,because you can't get a submission before you get a position. one thing i like to do is attempt a kimura from guard than take the back. or knee on stomach than move to 69 position and take kimura. when your opponent has the advantage you have to think 2 steps ahead of him. "okay if i move this way i expose my back, but if i move this way i can get this...." trial and error will prove to be usefull. and you have to spar more than 15 minutes a class, we do 30 minutes of sparring every class.

silat is mainly an empty hand art, that uses forms, kali does not use forms, actually it has like one or two, but only at higher levels.

Im going to have to say physical attributes are alot less important then knowledge of strategy,technique,skill. I know alot of people for one, normand grimand, is a student of my sifu/guro/master, he holds black belts in kajukenbo,karate, and is an instructor in muay thai,(ajarm sirsute chai) jkd (philip) silat (philip+inosanto) shoot fighting(erik paulson). he stands about 5,4, and is around 140 lbs but when this guy fights in any discipline he has no competition. Now im not saying size does not matter, but pound for pound, weight and strength is an advantage. A good example of this is when big guys come to try my bjj class, sure the pin me down( im 140lbs,5, but when they loosen their grip I put them in armbars and chokes etc... strength and size are nothing if you don't know how to use you physical attributes to your advantage.

i would probably do what i was trained to do, sprawl than lets say this is a vale-tudo situation , i would start striking the back of his head with elbows, keeping my legs out of reach, than use a guillotine. in a sparring match, i would probable fall to the ground and put him in my guard( i have a pretty good guard) and works my triple threat attack, lol. armbar, if he escapes ,transition to omoplata, if that doesn't work, fall back and put him in a triangle choke.

sure i used to do that in ninpo, kensai, hes talking about randori

i think he was talking about bjj because he mentioned it has to do more with" "wrestling/grappling" read his post kensai,

HOLY $**t

the overlap is that they both use lots of grounfighting, although there is more in bjj, the focus is different, in judo the objective is to throw your opponent to achieve a knockout/joitlock, while in bjj the objective is to disable your opponent, wether on the ground or standing. in bjj the philosophy is why trade strikes with someone who might be stronger,bigger etc... through clinching and groundfighting you eliminate the persons ability to strike(he still can but not really) and you (the bjj player) have trained for this, so you apply a submission/choke. the two are very similar and bjj is a derivative of judo ,the main difference is that, the emphasis is on different ranges of combat.

its usually minus 15 here and theres about a foot of snow

RENZO GRACIE IS IN NEW YORK CITY!!! hes a great bjj teacher maybe you'd like that, or the chau's center for martial arts ,has a variety of classes and i have heard good thing about it, cheack out htose places. but new york for sure has more options than montreal, lucky you.

CKDSTUDENT are you kidding do you know who those people are? i think we should realize what they have realized and incorporate ground skills into your training. I would put money on the bjj guy even if he had no striking skills, lol, i think he would be able to takedown and submit the striker. I also don't realize why people when they see something that works why they don't incorporate it into their traing. all this "you can't change this" and "you can't mess with tradition" bs is holding the tma's from evolving.

I think that throws are good, if you want to learn them and practice them great, but most people like myself don't have the times to train all areas of combat and this may require cross-training, personally i train my boxing/mt skills but only to a certain extent and than its jiu-jitsu, so really my throwing isn't that good, like hip throw, o-soto gari ,ouchigari, but my bjj takedowns are pretty good. so for this reason i feel that developping my throws isn't my priority. I find that striking skills will compensate for my lack of throwing skills. although i would love to be able to throw a guy across the room.

ya thats what i was thinking about rammymensa

no we don't have that

bjj, being able to actually use the submissions during combat and the simplicity of the techniques and strategy. I have studied karate,kung fu,ninpo,kajukenbo,blauer tactical, but i have never found a ma' that functions as effiently and effectively as brazilian jiu-jitsu.

exactly becasue we can't foget that you don't have to have great throws if you can box/kickbox and thats what many mma guys are doing, when was the last time you saw an mma guy do a traditional throw? or even one that resembled it? nhb is very much like th street, if you wouldn't use a hip-throw for example in the ring than why would you use it in the street? practicing arm drags and duck-unders is also a greet way to close the distance and take the back while standing. lucky ba$tard you live in l.a. theres some great sifu/guro/master's out there!!

ya f**kin snow eh? its hard terrible out here in montreal!

I was recently at a seminar with Fabio Holanda,(bjj bb) and hes on the brazilian top team,anyways he stated during the seminar that, in order to know a technique you must have practiced it aroun 3,000 times, WOW, is it just me or is thta a long time to learn a technique, would'nt the person get the hang of it at alot less than that? ( any your thoughts+opinions?)

you would probable be better off doing some tkd to get you started, because ninjutsu is really bad(from what i have experienced) i have a yellow belt in the system and from my experiences, the techniques are completely unreliable and will get you killed

well one reason is that when performing alot of these thows you expose you face, like one hand on the lapel and the othe on his arm things like that are very common in tma's. single/double leg ,shoot, are found more often because they don't require as much detail to perform. personnaly i like o-soto-gari,single leg, high-crotch,