Drunken Monkey

technically he didn't LEARN it...

just a quick question. a looong time ago i remember seeing a little comic book (the little a5 sized thing in hk) that was a dragonball thing. i think it was probably the first issue as it had a little boy with a tail who used to turn into a big monkey/gorilla when something happens (can't remember what...) did the dragonball series start with this or did it jump straight into him being older?

they don't always aim for the head.

i don't know. that's why i asked. y'know? that's what a question mark denotes: a question...

not really... the generally accepted way of spelling it is "wing chun". some of the sifus out there added their own "tag" (classical, traditional, authentic etc etc) to diffrentiate their school. the other spellings are just another way of them to separate their schools. it isn't about different romanisations. in cantonese, wing chun is just wing chun. there are two different ways of writing the characters (which a different line from BEFORE yip man uses) but it is still pronounced the same. it does not have a different romanisation. when i said all wing chun is wing chun i WAS talking about the principles. if you take away the forms and look at how the different lines and schools of wing chun do things, you will see that the core is the same. whether it is good or bad is almost irrelevant because whether you are good or not is up to you. even the bad teachers out there teach the forms correctly (by which i mean they teach you how to "perform" the forms). how you apply the principles to the forms/moves is up to you. even a good teacher cannot tell you how a move will work for you. i say it is easy to learn because it is EASY to learn. you can easily learn to do the forms and weapons in about six months. but this does not mean you are good. knowing is a totally different thing to being good. being good means knowing what every detail is. you seem to have misunderstood what my post said... i was pointing out that knowing how to do the forms mean nothing without learning the details.

i kinda think that ability only really comes into play when both parties are evenly matched in strength. as for which is more important, i'll have to give that more thought...

oh god, once you start to collect old books you'll never stop... prize item in my martial arts book shelf is one of the foo hok seung ying kuen performed by lam sai wing. other than that my architecture book collection is bigger than i can control but then i guess three years of study under psycho tutors can do that.

um, sano, didn't you say you were around 14? like i said before, while you are training, you are not professional. therefore you were never a pro in training. if i use your logic, i would be a former pro tai chi master in training, former pro tkd in training, former world class chef in training, former pro kick boxer in training, former pro rally driver in training...

man, how's a wing chun guy supposed to know the japanese names for them...

i like chow yun fat. cool actor. i kinda like the fact that he doesn't even know martial arts but a lot of guys think he does.

well, like i keep saying, if anyone was even thinking of entering that sort of competition, they would be mad not to train for it. those guys you mentioned are, as far as i am aware, are highly trained individuals (with lots of potential) but that doesn't automatically mean that they are good fighters. but then that could be fixed with some proper training against real hits etc etc.

and then there's the whole new experience of pain that you never knew existed.... you have to be really, really, dedicated...

oooh, that question might annoy a few hard core christians out there...

look for a guy called yip gee keung (or something similar, i only know his name in cantonese, not sure how it is romanised).

they like to use different spellings to differentiate them from their brothers. all wing chun is wing chun. some may tell you that not all wing chun is the same but at the end of the day, it isn't the hardest thing to LEARN. after all, there are only three hand forms, two weapons forms and the dummy form. what you do in the time between classes is what makes you good. don't get caught in the "which one is better?" arguments.

well, i was being a bit over simplied so as to not complicate matters. when you chose to intercept an attack there are options open to you. i) you can just stop it and hit back ii) you can stop it and apply a lock/control iii) you can intercept at a nerve cluster to increase stopping effect then hit back iv) you can intercept, then hit with the same arm v) you can hit without the need to intercept most of the differences are probably found in the way it is taught (i.e what you are told). in execution, it will be "block", "hit back".

hmm, just read my posts on this thread, maybe i should've put the missus a little earlier on that list...

he hasn't denied it...

but if you are moving backwards, you are not going to be grounded enough to land a solid kick.

um, i just know that as a hip throw. (and do a little hop to really throw them into the ground....)

the point he made was that all grappling arts train in striking because that's how they enter. not all striking arts train in grappling.

nono, i'm serious. if people start seeing you as "the dumb kid who only talks about games and wrestling and anime" then that is going to be hard to shake off. then there's the point that a lot of your posts have been, let's just say, very thin on substance.

name ONE other thing that has grappling of sort where the guys wear things like that and pulls faces like that whilst in a poorly executed hold.

gasp, what you mean that grapplers don't ONLY know how to grapple? and there i thought that they did nothing until they were close enough to grab...

listen, kid, it's not really you that i'm picking on, it's the type of posts you make. anyone who makes posts like you do will get it from me. can't be very subtle about this but most of them are a bit, well, full of tosh. don't use games as a measure of what can or can't be done in martial arts. don't compare what you see in the wrestling things as proof of grappling moves' effectiveness OR the performers ability. there are more styles of martial arts then there are people in the wwe. if you want an example of a move that someone did, then choose an example that people wil respect. the moment you loose credibility is the moment people stop taking you seriously. so far, you have said more things that harm your credibility than things that have earned it. act like an adult and people will treat you like one. act like a kid and people will treat you like a kid.