jeffrogers

No I wasn't serious about my list. lol! here is my real list Jeet Kune do Mauy thai BJJ Wrestling Boxing judo and training on 9mm or other hand guns as well. thank you. -Jeff

Not sure what people think. but you get people who are close to the same technical skill level. Size and strength do play a factor in that. What are all your thoughts on it? -Jeff

in one of the earlier UFC's Gary "Big Daddy" Goodridge was sporting a black gi with the words of that style on the back of it. Thought that was interesting. -Jeff

good points.

I am still waiting for the Chuck Liddel and Tito Ortiz match. Hopefully this one actually happens this time.

I know, it was a joke. Just throwing some humor out there.

I thought my list was good. lol!

Hakutsuru means "White Crane" in japense if I am correct. Also history on Goju ryu and Shorin ryu basically the teaching if youlook back a the genology of teh s intructers and the history. They talk about crane elements in the Karate.

maybe kick boxing like May thai, or just plain boxing you would like better. Siimple moves but very effective. Also not sure what you mean. You talking about the grappling as basically just wrestliing on the ground trying to find a sub. Judo is okay try Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. They focus on subs. Or try Mixed Martial art (mma) style of fighting. Get into cage fighting. You heard of Cagewars? I hear its a good cage fighting event in the UK. -Jeff ps. I am more biased towards MMA/BJJ styles as you can guess.

You have your points drunken Monkey. I know what those drills are done for. As far as puncing to the air. Boxers shadow box. But least thre movements are more realist then standing in a horse stance, or something to that nature. Punching mindlessly from the hip. Although there are points to be emphasized from that training I feel the actually drills of that training are over emphasised instead of going on to more advanced. For example. Punching from the hip in a foward stance, using a reverse punch. Japense, and Okinawan styles. in "General" not all of them. Are big off of that. It has its place. for ides that same motion may not really be a punch but teaching ideas of pushing and pulling, using both sides of the body there for generating more power. keeping the arms close to the body and punches hopefully aligned straight. There for you take the concepts and that feeling and bring them to were your hands are on guard. you keept them close elbows in and punching straight. Using both sides of the body by using the shoulder rotation as well as lats and tighting of both arms on impact. but keeping your not punching arm close by your head so you can keeep from getting hit in that area. I don't feel air drills are bad. But should be changed to more realistic drilling instead of the "look" of that style. The air drills or shodow boxing should be balanced out with good pad hitting. both focus pad hitting as well as heavy bad. I agree with physical conditioning and using plyometrics and calestincs even some weights but not alot of heavy weights you can gain more muscle mass yes. but as you said slow you done. Getting more toned muscles and functional strength is good. but all that don't matter if you aren't getting regular practice hitting the heavy bag. That the proff weather or not your punching correctly. Your wrist colopase or the results on your impact power on the bag will tell you that. So hitting the bag and focusing on using your whole body for more power is definelty needed. You can hit a person like that all the time no one will won't to train with you. Or you will start to seriously injure people. You definetly can't gain power punching to the air all the time. You can work on your speed and form. But for impact penatration power. You just won't get it from that. As for partner work out. You need partner putting resistance. I am not saying just one punch. I seen alot of karate stylist practice there techniques and throw a punch but leave it out there for the person to do the technique that is okay but why let them do the wrist lock if they been doing it for last two years same way only thing they gain is some detali to lock the wrist better and to be come more faster at the technique thats fine. But won't work very well or as well in more of a real scenerio were a person is resisting. so maybe if the guy puts resistance against the wrist lock trys to pull away, counters what not. gives the other guy more of a change of scenerio were he has ot adapt and make his moves work more effectively As well as throwing multite more then one strikes helps also. I see your points. but I am trying to get across mine that a person needs resistance training. Yes over time you can get okay skills by the training y ou were talking about but were talking about learning to fight quick. I am just trying to emphasis got to havre resistancee training with your partner. Got to have physical conditioning to keep your cardio and muscular strength up. Got to work on a simple moves in ranges of grappling and striking. More moves you complex the mind with less time you got to work on the simple one that will work better of for you to fight quicker. Just from my experience. Take martail art because you want to learn self defense, have more confidence, enjoy the style, get more excercise great! take style you enjoy and have fun you want to learn to fight quicker well. Then going to persay traditioinal style isn't going to get you there as quick as other types of training. Just my point of view. -Jeff

they are pretty difficult to do. Especially if some one is has good snap or pull back. Traditionaly when practing technqiues. People step in and punch and hold there punch out there while the opponent does his/her technique. start with that and have resistance training. Meaning have your partner slowy pull back the hand. Work on shorting movements and angles to wear you can lock the wrist or what every your doing and in a smaller mount of time becasue your not using big motions. Also when you got ahold of a lock on them have them reistance the lock counter or something and pull away. This will help so you can keep constant pressure ont he lock by changing angles what not. Or just letting it go follow up with stirkes and go for another lock. Or if they are resistancingt throw in a strike to take there mind of the lock there for you can re-apply the lock. slowly bulid up that resistance by having your partner put more and more into it. Then try them in live sparring. some times it works if you go for the non punching hand or the hand that hasn't punched and try to be quick and lock it. Or throw in leg kicks sweeps to take there balance and take it.

ShootI remember when I taught along side my instructor at his MA School. kiddn't didn't know how to tie the belt neither the adults. Some got it right some didn't. After awhile I stopped carring. -Jefff

Try a book by bill "Super foot" Walace. He has a lot of good ideas on stretching and working for better kicks. Search through google on his name. Maybe add in the search engine with his name books and streching probalby find what your looking for. -Jeff

Hey Rich67 thank you so much. with out weights I already fill the tentions and torque in my arm. work that are will definelty help out. Also they type of training you are talking about sounds to me like Plyometrics. -Jeff

Depends there are good instructers and not so good. So you can do the most complete, most techniqcally sound art (yeah if there is one) But instructor 1 may not know how to teach so he may be good but his students suck! or two. He isn't doesn't know who to teach or does but his own level is very limited so your stuck with a limited knowlege base. No art! Covers every scenerio every angle every aspect. You train and hope for hte best but reality comes. We all want to think we have control over that sort of stuff. But when there is your family around friends, guns, knefes, base ball bats, mutltimple attackers. Odds are very much against you. Not saying it isn't worth practing but. Again you practice because you enjoy the art or the concepts and technques your learning from what ever instructers you decide to learn from. maybe I am misunderstanding you by complete or as far as perfect art there is no perfect art. But then again you still got to know people study martial arts for diffrent reasons. Biggest one is confidence. either confidence to get in better shape and and Martiaili arts is a diffrent way to excercise. or confidence in learning to protect them selves. or what not. some like the mystic and spirtual side of martial arts. For example how effective is japense sword art in your daily life. Your not going to be carrying a sword with you most of the time. Granted there are concepts it can teach you but still is it complete art. sure for that person who enjoys it. They are content there for its complete to them. If complete for fighting well thats a diffrent story "THEN" what you talk about needs to be in that art. Also with good quality instruction and theory in each catogory so far I haven't found instructor or style that teaches all those apects with profiency in each catogorey. Just my 0.2 cents. -Jeff

The guy is a tool. People talk * all the time. I remember a story by MMA instructer who trained years ago at the Graice acadmey With Rorion (sp?) and Royce for those who don't know. pronounced Hoyce. But spelled Royce. but any way him and another instructor butt not at that time. Because they were only blue belts I believe. Were at a bar. When this guy sees his BJJ shirt. Goes in about how he is a purple belt (which he never saw him there before. funny how that worked) Also he knew royce (pronounced it wrong with "R"oyce) How they hang out all the time on the weekends (Royce was married and settled down by then so he really didn't party that much) he kept going on and on. finally the other guy got tired of the *. Did a double leg on the guy, slammed him down, mounted him and started throwing bombs down on him. Then the bouncers broke it up and threw out the * who was talking the *. Because they were friends with the other two guys that were there. Granted not all BJJ people are like this. Those guys were young and dumb. Not worth beating up every guy at the bar for making up lame stories. But you get the point that people * all the time. I doubt this guy you mentioned can beat a low level MMA fighter much less a high end pro. -Jeff

Hey Yireses, YOu do Shaolin Kempo? right on Fed villari Styem, or United stystem, or Castro, stystem or what what system of Shaolin Kempo you study? -Jeff

I haven't studdies have friends who have and checked out the principles from the net and talked to other wing chun instructes and the princeples. chi Sao is like Sticking hands in Tai chi. Well not really but sort of. basically going with the energy and redirection and such those principles are same in both. But applcation is bit diffrent. Wing chun heavily uses the theory of the "Center line" how punches and paries and redirection comes from that point and back to that point. Interesting style. There is history of it competing as in "Back yard" Type matches against other styles so to speak. "Challange matches" With Wing chun practioners and other styles. And dependson the the person adn school. Some people compete in other tournments weather full contact or point sparrting. Depends again on the instructers emphasis and the student if he wants to try that sort of thing out. on that note some years back. I went in a point sparring match when I was into those. I faught a wing chun guy. I won. But I think they judges were blind because I didn't even conncect with the Wing Chun guy's ribs. I hit his elbows but for some reason the called point form me. He was really solid in that he had his elbows locked in very nicely. He had decent form. I was impressed. They also do alot of Trappling and other such excercieses. But comming from turning over more to an MMA side. I feel with ground fighting that Wing chun lacks. As well as one of the schools I went to he talked about you have to have these certain stances at all times even while fighting. That they are Physologicaly correct. With the structure of the body. Which I found silly because they son't diviate. You got to adapt during a fight not stay staget. But hey that is okay least if some one states that way I know what to look for and shoot makes it easier for the attacker. Over all wing chun has alot of good theory and interesting drills, good to check it out in my opinion. Take my limited experience with this art for what its worth. -Jeff

Resistance training, resistance ttraining, Resistance training. Only by resistance and people grow and techniques work.

I agree on that that breathing is importatn but it doesn't automatically lock you into doing moves correct. That has to be ingrained with repetion. If that "Theory" was correct you would say way more skilled people then you actually do in the martial arts community. Or any sport indevour. Physical condtioning, breathing techniaques, dedication of mind and body, and actually reps and learning is what makes a good martial artist as far as technical aspects. correct breathing is only part of it. You got to train the muscles for muscle memory. So no offense but from my experience with teaching and watching other instructers teach and very highly skilled instructoers in other arts as well. I am very skeptical about your theory. -Jeff

Ron, We had few conversations before in the past. I dobut you remember me. But I respect your opinion and see were you are coming from. I havenn't studied Fujian White Crane so I can't commment on the diffrence between Hakutsuru and Fujian white Crane. I was saying I like concepts of Hakutsuru and to me has crane concepts in it. How it relates to the White crane style you are practing well I can't give an opinion on that. Only opinion I can give is I enjoy Hakutsuru and Mr. Sandoval is an excellent teacher with regards to concept and theory and application training. Thank you for your comments though Ron. I have always enjoyed are conversations. -Jeff

I have heard of him alot. He is good.

Although I see the point of your post. REaliity not all arts combine all t hose aspects. Some do. but then I have noticed that they are lacking knowledge of that aspect. For example I seen arts that have striking and weapons and tactics and such. They are okay and they do ground also. But I noticed the way they teach the ground they are lacking alot of knowledge on that subject as well as other arts that are okay in grappling but lack knowlege of striking so the striking aspect is weak. There for y ou may have a point. but I look for quality in training. So some can care for a paticular style. but i learned awhile ago to take what I like and what will make me by my own judgement a better fighter. There for you see quite a bit go to the MMA route. Were they seek the specialist in there field and learn the concepts from them. There for being far more rounded. Then going to a "complete" Art.

I train in Hakutsuru I don't know much about what Chinse white crane do. I know of the concepts are crane concepts even though movements are more like a mixed of karate and crane in one movement I seen certain hand postions and such. But mostly they look to be diffrent. As for Hakutsuru there is a lot of good concepts with in the white crane system. One of hte best instructors I found who teaches that is Tony Sandoval. Here is link to him if you want to check out what he teaches so to speka. You would have to e-mail him to get a better idea though. http://www.sandovalkaratekobudofederation.com/ Me I can careless if some one does true taekwondo, true white crane, true Kenpo or what ever. If they instructor is good and the concepts he teaches are good. Fine by me. For the instructor I have I get shot gun blasted with a lot of concepts and good ideas. The whole are and way of teaching stuff is based on getting across ideas and points. In each form there are ideas that come with it and other forms that have main indeas in it can tranfer the same Ideas into your previous forms. alot of good stuff.

It depends. I like the open guard alot, bufferly is cool also. I wouldn't mind learning and working on the butterfly guard. I am not a big fan of the closed guard though. -Jeff