jeffrogers

Jerry love has a point. but unfortently not all arts do this. There is no Wing chun/Wertling style. So the person would have to do both seperate and then use his own mind and experience in training to mix it. To modify his stances in wing chun so he can sprawl, clinch or what not, and modify some his wreslting sanceses and hand postions for his wing chun work. but hey this why there is MMA. People already do that. Were they mix Muay thai, wrestling, BJJ, Boxing. then train for fighting show how to modify it so you can work it in for that situation. I agree with some one mentioned ealire that tthe art is complete depending what the person wants. If he wants to fight for self defense then he needs grappling and striking and weapons work and self defense scenerio work as well as alot of emotional and mental training to deal with thee adriniline dump and fear that comes with self defense sceneriros were you are going to be attacked. Youc an abe the best person in your gym in the world as far as techniques go. but if your fears get the best of you or the adrinilne can also make you sloppy and tense as hell. and mess up your techniaques. So y ou have to learn to control all that. If you want it for ring. Well Grapplinig and striking then. Don't need weapons training or training for eye gouges and what not. Unless some event your doing allowes you to do those. If you are on a questioni for spiritual enlgihtment through training in the martial arts. Maybe another art that it may not be complete as far as fighting but has alot of theroys good breathing excercises and would be complete for that person. Also I believe in taking what you like. You don't need every thing in one art. If you take teh stuff you like practice it until you are good at it or can make it work for you and use it in self defense or fgihting application. Then move on! you don't need to know every form every move everry technique of a style if you want to be a good fighter. Just some simple techniques work best. Mostly alot of moves don't work really well in fight applications. Mostly its the simple stuff that work. So if that is y our goal is to fight then you don't need alot of stuff. Now hoever for example you want to be a complete Shotokan fighter and martial artist. Then don't train in other stuff. Just do shotokan learn as much as you can in the art and be a good "shotokan" fighter and martial artist. but don't make you a good fighter over all. Because you get grapplers in there or some one from diffrent styles that you haven't faced and do techniques unfamiluar your going to have a harder time and probably get clocked especially by some one competing against other styles. Thats just my two cents. -Jeff

Rich67 you got any good rotater cuff excercise drills then. I messed mine up also. -Jeff

Choki Motobu, Ed Parker, Hohan Soken, Bruce Lee, Yip Man, Bodhiarrhma (sp?) what ever the name of the guy who braught the * form india to shaolin temple in China. Also would like to meet Helio Gracie, Rickson Gracie, General Choi, and train with and talk to all these people. Also I am not going to even spell his name but the founder of Aikido I know the name just can't remember how to spell it. As well as many others. Musashi the great japanese swords man. As well as some Ninja clan masters of old japan. I would also like to meet Jet Li and his wushu instructer that is a really beautiful art to watch. okay that is all. -Jeff

No offense to the more traditional arts. I take Traditional arts as well as MMA martial arts. the guy wanted to learn to fight quick. It takes awhile longer with TMA arts in my opinion. YOu end up going through alot of traditional stuff. Stance work like horse stance and other stuff depending on what style you do. Best thing to do is do an art based around fighting if you want to fight quick. Meaning he needs to go hit bags develop his power develop his speed. And get hit at so he can learn to get out of the way. alot of TMA styles they will step into the punch hold there arm out there while the opponent does the technique on them. As well as the fact that that alot of times done with little to know resitance by the oppenet. There for you don't move as faster as you would say boxing. were guy his hiting you pulling his punch back and you got ot move counter and do your own combinations. Your fighting ability as far as power speed, distance, timing, not getting hit, will go alot quicker. Plus moves are kept simple to a few punches. Same thing with Mauy thai or other arts were they go in and fight. As for BJJ or some wreslting you go in and drill then you go against an oppenent who does resistance against you trying to get you in a sub also. It helps you fine out yoru motor skills gives the timing when to counter. Each martial art is good. but if you have a certain perpouse in mind to why you want to take it. Not every art will work for you. I hear on this forum in general by alot of people saying it isn't the art its the person. All though they have a certain point to a degree. But in all truth it is the art also. Your not going to get to do alot of kicking and diffrent types of kicks doing shotokan as you would taekwondo because they both have a diffrent trianing emphasis. Your not going to get good at fast mulitdue of hand strikes by doing taekwondo. You would be better off if that is what to do. Is doing kenpo. Same thing for fighting. do boxing, Mauy thai, wrestling, BJJ or other combat arts that are based around that. I know they say all arts are for combat or almost all arts. Maybe they were at a time. but you get alot that are focused on spirtual englightment or on forms, techniques agasint an opponent with little or no resisteance maybe some light sparrring and after a few years maybe more contact. It takes awhijle to get good. Ilearned alot of stuff through tma. pressure points, cool wrist locks and throws, alot of diffrent stikes. like tiger claw, crane beak. but all that stuff is very hard to pull off. I didn't realize why until I did Jiu-Jitsu and worked out a little bit with some boxers. You need resistance training. You can stand up and move y our arms like your doing a push up in the air. for as long as you want. you can do thousands of reps your arm will get stronger alittle bit. But its not going be like the muscle gains you would get if you just get on the ground and do push ups having your body weight to support. You need the resistance. And I find alot of TMA arts don't provide that. thats just my opinion. -Jeff

You definelty got a point there Sevenstar I remember being at a Karate tournment a year and half back that had a Grappling event with the gi. I went against this guy. I noticed the trend of TMA schools addging grappling but not having a qualifyed or at least some one good at Jiu-Jitsu or subs and postions to really teach them. They get ideas from tapes or some judo friend thats been doing it for a little while. There students take some ones back and end up crossing there legs like you would in teh guard. quick way to get ankel locked there. Also there postions weren't as tight and didn't have enough detail or postional awerness to pull of subs for even a simple straight arm bar from the mount postion. Needless to say I got cocky when the match started and thought I could beat quickly. Damn he was strong. HE was one of those guys that muscle alot grabbing the gi alot and pulling. Works the arms so he had good holding muscle as far as staying tense the hole time so hard to move. either way I didn't really train for it. I underestimated the guys I was going against and thought I could easliy beat them. Then even was kind of lam ethough. Only 3 people in and I was the 3rd person. 2 of the other guys were the Karate guys with some grappling experience not by any one I would consider good who taught them. But basically first match ended up were I let the guy take me down. I didn't care about points because I was sure I can tap him. We rolled around and the time limit was diffrent. It was 3 minutes instead of 5. Well towards the end I doing guard and I pull his arm across had my foot leg on ihs back keeping him down and about to turn to throw my leg around for arm bar. I was sure I could get it. but time was called and he won on points. I was pissed. I went against the other guy. Again Pissed off because I didn't sub him I won on points that one I wasn't going to give up postions just because I thoguhtI can sub him quickly. I learned I need to train for every event and not take underestimate people like I did. I made to many mistakes and the other guy becausd of it. But the point was it was 3 minute rounds like you were talkinga bout I trained for 5minute rounds when I do a regular BJJ or submission event. but this one I rolled normal with people in my class and didn't do any time limit. What did I get for it. I lost because I didn't train for the event I was competing in. Okay I am done rambling. -Jeff

good stragey Karateka. Most kids aren't ready for that type of training. I see what you mean KM. I know the importance of breathing. Maybe I am misinterpreting the message in your post. But seems like your stating that with the breathing that the techniques will naturally fall into place. No I don't think you mean that. You still have to make corrections and expose them to intricies (sp?) of the details in the technique. Such as a straight wrist. Although I do agree with you on the intial point of having them imagine there oppenent and to have that ingrained so they motivate them selves to be more determined or deciating there techniques. Now is the breathings your talking about in the form of the KIA say on the end of a punch? I want to pick your brain more on this subject to get a better understanding of what your talking about as far as breathing and timing it with the technique. I know breathing drills I know ideas of timing it to go with the movement I been taught several theries on it. Such as breating out on the strike and in haling on the return of the strike same with block also opposide inhaling on the throw of the stirke. Also been taught to breath normal. Just keep the air moving and on impact for a spit second to stop the breath and just breath normally as quick as it is stoped. But what are your ideas? -Jeff

I believe in Bio electricity. Does that count? lol!

Unbendable arm is broken arm if you apply arm bar. -Jeff

Joe son do all the way

1. Olympic style taekwondo 2. BJJ (Gi only) 3. Kangroo Kungfoo 4. Joe son do 5. Oil check Wrestling 6. Hawaiian art of bone breaking 7. Aikido 8. Wing chun 9. Tai Chi 10. Drunken Donkey Punch Kung fu

I got that from https://www.chrisbrennan.com He has a lot of good tips. Also you already know this site I bet. Go to https://www.mma.tv and check out the Underground and ask the profighters on that forum. Or go to the Chris brennan sectoin and ask him. He is really good and cool as * for sharing stuff. -Jeff

wolvirine here is some info I got on diet and excercise program off MMA website. Extreme Diet and Routine for cutting to 155lbs (Only for the headstrong) Cardio: Minimum 40 minutes before you eat ANYTHING. 9am Breakfast 1/2 can of Kirkland Chicken breast from Costco + 1/2 cup of steamed rice + 1 cup broccoli. 10am Train MMA Jiu-Jitsu/Wrestling 11am Snack: 1/2 Pro Max Bar Rest! 2pm Snack 1/2 Pro Max Bar Rest! 4pm Dinner: 1/2 can of Chicken + 1/2 cup of steamed rice + 1 cup broccoli. 5pm NHB Class Fight Team Training 7:30-9pm Jiu-Jitsu Regular Class 9pm Cardio Minimum 40 minutes I drink a minimum of 2-2.5 gallons of water per day when I am on this diet. Put Crystal Light in it for flavor and Electrolytes. Take a multi pack of Vitamins, and some extra Vitamin-C. Rest as often as you can. You will feel weak in between meals but if you are eating before you train it will give you the energy to survive and that is really all you need to do...Survive. Diet for cutting to 170lbs Breakfast 1 bowl(cup) cream of wheat mixed with banana baby food and 1 EAS pre mixed shake Snack Pro Max Bar or some fruit Lunch 5 chicken tenderloins 1 cup (before cooked) steamed white rice 7 triscuts 1 ff yogurt Snack Pro Max Bar or some fruit Dinner 5 chicken tenderloins 1 cup (before cooked) steamed white rice 7 triscuts 1 ff yogurt DRINK PLENTY OF WATER. AT LEAST A GALLON A DAY. TAKE A MULTI PACK OF VITAMINS AND SOME EXTRA VITAMIN C

delta1 has a good point. Or if you do decide on a school. Take a look at there program. See what they have to offer after black belt. See the level of the black belts they do have. -Jeff

For quick fighting Taking some Mauy thai to learn to elbow, punch, kneed and some low round house kicks. Take some wreslting for take downs and sprawl work. Take some brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and work on some basic submissions and how to turn some one over if your on your back. Also do some hard core cardio and strengh training. But since your talking about fighting 2 o r more guys with weapons your best bet is to learn to say "Hears my walet" Or work on some basic boxing skills and most importantly how to run. I am sorry if your not already a decent trained fighter and you expect trouble to come up with more then one oppents your getting your * kicked especailly if there armed. Thats the honest truth. There are those that were lucky in a situatioin were they surived or even more lucky were they actually prevailed over the attackers in that situation doesn't mean they can take on a diffretn group with less people in fact and still win. They probably woudly get seriously hurt. Martial arts gives you confidence to fight some one one on one who is in your face to kick your *. But doesn't deal all to well with a lot of multiple oppents, suprise attacks or guys with weapons. It tries to and its good to know some stragies. But the odds are still againt you. Martial arts doesn't make some one super man. Good luck to you. -Jeff

Have you ever heard of a man named Tony Blauer KM? This article you wrote braught up idea or memory that must instructers I met haven't gone through great dills of how to deal with the emotional factor of a physical confrontation. If you spar first time you get it a little bit or alot as far as nervousness or maybe down right being afraid. But they don't talk about how to deal with these issues in a physical confrontation. You get alittle bit in the dojo but only for a short while. For example in sparring but wants you become comfortable with every one you may get it a little bit. But not as much pressure. You man experience it a bit more in Karate tournments. But what I am getting at is the Fear factor (no pun intended) and the adrinline dump that goes into some one before a physical confrontation. That only way to calm the mind. Cause as you mention before that if the mind isn't calm the body is tenste there for slows down the reaction time and such. Any one the person I mentioned talks in detail about that sort of thing. But I decided to bring this up. Because it came to my mind when talking about the mind being calm. -Jeff

No disrespect taken in your post KM. Okay I understand what your talking about. What you mean by visualization. As far as visualzing an appoenent. As for breathing and Kia'ing I don't see how that effects the physical techniques as far as there correct application of posture not persay the intensity. But hey each instructer has his/hers own methods of teaching. -Jeff

need a partner though for critique and feed back. You can learn any thing you want. If you have a good base already its alot easiser if your new at the partciular game and don't have a good martial art base. Its not as good. You will miss alot of key points. But good luck to you. -Jeff

On the ball of your foot to help push your weight off of it. or propel your body forward if that makes sense. To help keep the chin down use one of those spungy nerf balls or something under your chin and pin it to your chest that way you can shadow box and do what ever and if you keep that ball under there it forces you to keep your chin down or it will fall out. Good drill to do. -Jeff

Thats also sadly one thing about MMA alot of the MMA fighters do Juice. -Jeff

Mixed Martail arts woudl be your best bet. Learn to shoot, learn to sprawl, learn to box, learn Mauy Thai. Boxing teaches you good punch comob's hitting the bag and focus mits works on power and focus. Working on bobbing nad weaving works on geting out of hte way of the punch. Mauy thai until you fill confidentin your leg kicking power and your elbows/knees's and head butts. Also good wreslting and NO Gi Jiu-Jitsu training for subs. For complete fighter. Plus good conditioning program, for flexiblity, cardio for both grappling and stand up fighting as well as good strength traiing program. Plus good self defense as far as groin attacking, eye gouging and also biting techniques. Also some knife fighting and disarments, as well as gun disarms, and stick fighting and disarms will help. You probably have to go to multiple places. I would say start off with Boxing classes or Mauy thai as well as some werstling or BJJ class then move on from there. But no one art like TKD or boxing or werestling or Karate, or BJJ is going to get you good at fighting for the street quick. The arts are what they are "ART" so you will be working on forms (which has there place but won't make you a good fighter quick so you don't need them for that purpose) Also to much emphasis on a particular stance and the look of that stance for that style as opposed to fighting effectiveness. So I would go for Mauy Thai, and wrestling and BJJ and maybe a few classes in Jeet Kune do or something were tehy show some bitting techniques, eyegoues and such and groing attackes but then again you don't really need training on those maybe a few ideas but you can train on those by your self iwth out a teacher every knows you can stick your finger in some ones eyes or go for hte groin so it isn't a big deal. Any begging martiail artist knows about side kicking a knee so not alot of instruction training just your own reps on that. So again I say Mauy Thai, BJJ, wrestling, and boxing training. Also cardio training aslo biggest is condtioning. If your athletic you pick up the moves faster and have better control of your body. Plus you are stronger and more conditioned the the other practioners that don't do as good of physical training. -Jeff

I checked out other schools most of them let me watch. I did drop by this one ed Parker school. The guy was wouldn't let me watch which I thought was wierd. Later on the school closed down and we got alot of there students at are school. But they sucked donkey balls. There kenpo wasn't good at all. I was an average belt at the time. I was taking it to about all there higher rankers. Later on I ended up teaching them. I thought that was funny. Oh well, -Jeff

get off line of the attack but move forward but at an angle or off line of the attack that way your out of harms way but close enough to do your own damage to the oppenent. With all these stories about tournments reminds me of a story one of my friends told me one time. He is a cage fighter out in Arizona. Really good stand up fighter boxing skills and low thai kicks are outstanding. Well he has a friend who runs some TKD association out there. So he decides for fun to compete at one of there tournments two weeks in advance he got one of those stretching and kicking techniques by Bill "super foot walance" He practices some of those drills. He then goes and competes. He beat the first guy sadly pretty easily. Well he see's this group of team members that are basically acting like pricks. They walk around all hard and are just butt heads when the spar. So he fights and beats the first guy rather easlily. Then he see's next two guys fight and it hapens to be one of the guys that was an * hole on that team. Seemed to be the team leader. that guy faught some other guy and basically hit them hard. After the match was called up he would stay hitting he was just a jerk giving attitude. The toher guy was alot smaller too. My friend got PISSED about this. So he goes up to his friend that runs the association who happend to run that particular sparring ring at that time also. So he walks up and whispers I am going to kick this guys butt. So my friend Mike and this prick from the other team square off. This was a point fighting tournment by the way. They say go. And my Mike goes straight in on the guy starts throwing boxing punches jab, jab, and hard right cross. the guy starts bleeding and getting the crap beat out of him. Judge calls up. Warns mike and gives the other guy a point. They go at it again. Mike does the same thing starts throwing bombs on the guy knocking him down. Again the judge (Mike's friend) gives the other guy a point (Even though mike should have been disqualifyed but some times there needs to be an exception. This to me is one of those times) They go again. Mike pounds on this guy again. At the end. The other guy one on points. Mike ended up getting 3rd place while the other guy got 1st and some guy got second. Funny thing is people were taking pictures of them holding the trophies. The guy his face all bruised up and bleeding looks over mike all mad. But to damn scared to do any thing. Mike just smiles with his 3rd place trophy in hand. Shows being a bully just doesn't pay off. Mike is a reallly nice guy who usually never starts fights and tries to walk away from them. But some times people get to you and they need an * whooping these guys were * so they needed it in my opinion. Thank you and that is all. -Jeff

Romoness is strong on this tread!

wolvirine guy that quote was by Homer Simpson am I correct? -Jeff