SevenStar

I agree pretty much with what's been said here. Judo can be modified for no gi, but wrestling does have excellent takedowns. Judo has equivalents to some of them, morote gari as a double leg, but I like the wrestling double leg better. ko soto gake is essentially a single leg.

are you serious?

I would hope that you would not be waiting for a tap in a real fight.. LOL, of course not.... just illustrating a point. even if he did wait for a sub, he'd break it, as the guy wouldn't tap.

agreed. it's easier to eye gouge and/or strike the throat when you have the person controlled and can keep his movement to a minimum.

judo is designed to get maximum effort with minimum result and throws can be disabling, so what you mentioned about that isn't common only among "combat arts" second, you can't practice those arts real time, right? You can't eye gouge someone, so you have to simulate it. that means you don't KNOW that you can use it in combat. Ever spar full contact? If you haven't I'll tell you a secret.... most people tend to freeze up after they take a hard shot on the street, and in the ring and tend to forget their training. It's natural and you have to know how to deal with it. bjjers, boxers, thai fighters, etc. are all very used to hard contact. As I said before, if I throw you on your head or break one of your limbs, who cares whether what I train in is a sport?

LOL, agreed.

he's differentiating them. kata is a japanese word - in chinese styles, they are called forms.

On judo and "deadliness" there are spine locks and leg locks, but you won't be shown them until advanced levels. As far as the throws that you learn, think about it... ippon seoinage - don't turn your waist as you throw him - bend straight down and throw him on his head. Also, turn his extended arm down, with his elbow pressed against your shoulder - it will break as you throw him. hiza guruma - instead of hitting the knee from the side, kick it head on. kata guruma - don't wheel him all the way around - drop him on his head. o soto gari - push back on his head as you kazushi, instead of his lapel - drive his head into the ground. with thought, you can find destructive alternatives of many of the throws.

And the clear restrictions on striking. I doubt it - look what bjj has done in mma over the years. How they train makes all the difference. If jduo guys are used to hard randori on a regular basis, where as the jj guys couldn't do that because their stuff was "too deadly". Consequently, the judoka were more prepared for the shiai.

Whether it's intended to be a sport art or combat art doesn't matter much IMO. They can be used either way. If I throw someone with tsuri komi goshi and he lands on his head and is knocked out, who cares if judo is a sport? Also, I don't think completeness is what makes it take long to master. BJJ is not complete, and it will take you a LONG time to master that. Heck, you may go for over a year without even seeing your FIRST promotion. As for Alexander, He spent time in india... the question is, did he influence their fighting, or did they influence his?

yeah, I know....that's not what I was addressing. I was addressing this: "but what happens if you get caught in a stand-up fight?" it sounds like an assumption that grappler's can't strike, which may be false. Also, on the ground, one just wouldn't got for submission. Even he he did, and the guy is untrained and doesn't know to tap, what happens? something gets snapped. That's actually happened in competitions where a guy didn't tap as well.

if you're familiar with judo - it's kesa gatame.

I've only gone through about 6 pages of this thread, but it looks as if the people who say it doesn't matter mare making assumptions that they shouldn't make: 1. that they are faster than the bigger guy 2. that the big guy isn't as well trained 3. that the fight won't go to the ground

short, wide guys have a lower center, and it's harder to get under them.

It still matters, just not as much. He will still have a harder time getting you off of him then someone lighter who is of the same skill as you. Also, strength can be used to fight certain positions and submissions, or to muscle your way out of or into a technique. Ideally, you want to have technique and strength. Then you must learn WHEN to use the strength.

grapple with a heavier guy and you will quickly change your mind.

wrong.

don't worry so much about opening moves, anticipation, etc. your goal is to be able to both act and react spontaneously. Use the techniques you are most comfortable with. remember good footwork and keep your guard up.

good post. I like to train alone also. One thing though - don't run with ankle weights. it's bad news for the knees. if you want to wear them and get a workout, get some heavy ones and just wear them all day. also do your kicks with them, but slowly. I've got some 20 lb ankle weights.

If I remember right, he also has another book called "The Way ALone" as for the question though: Drill. you can drill your techniques by yourself for as long as you'd like. also, lift weights, do bodyweight exercises, etc. As you make friends, you can get them to hold focus mitts for you. even if they don't train they may still be willing to help you out.

1. teep to the hips as he launches the kick. 2. step INTO the kick. the power is at the end of the kick - from the shin down. if you get inside the roundhouse before it reaches full speed or extension, you reduce damage. as you step in, catch the kicking leg and sweep the support leg. 3. turn into the kick, simultaneously blocking with your knee and extending a punch to his shoulder, hopefully knocking him further off balance. follow with a cut kick.

here's the thing with that though..... it won't continually make you stronger. bodyweight exercises turn into muscular endurance exercises. That's not a bad thing, don't get me wrong, but you shouldn't confuse it with strength. I, for example, bench press 265 for 5 reps. A guy that doesn't lift weights but can do 100 pushups has no chance of doing that. he's doing an endurance exercise.

Also note that there is a BIG difference between bodybuilding and strength training. Strength trainin focuses on training the neuro system moreso than the muslce, and you will gain strength without much size. Also, strength training focuses on compound exercises, not isolation exercises.

I ALMOST 100% agree with that. BJJ doesn't give out belts. there is a natural progression, and you will not advance until you have proven that you can. as a white belt, you won't be considered for blue unless you can keep up with the blues all of the time and beat them on at least a fairly regular basis. same goes for each successive step. Other than that, it's been my experience that what you said is right. BTW, the karate training I mentioned was from a Japanese friend of mine who grew up training in kumamoto. It's worlds different from what you see in America, but his was a family style and had no formal name. He's pretty well known in kumamoto, especially for his expertise with a balisong, oddly enough.

Don't forget the agression factor. Whether they are well trained or not, they are monsters because of the aggression. A guy I train bjj with was ranked 3rd in the WORLD in judo. he's now a purple belt in bjj, and extremely aggressive.... he was a SEAL. his MA training didn't come from there, but his aggression sure did.