SevenStar

ANYTHING can be effective, you oonly have to train properly. so If I trained as hard as I could in Tae Bo I would be just as good as if i had but that same effort in Boxing or Muay Thai. not all schools/stlyes are created equal..dont be naive.. your first mistake is that tae bo is not a style.... Don't be so ignorant.

judo - sankyu (3rd degree brown) bjj - white belt shuai chiao - no ranks are given Those are what I train in now. From past styles: longfist - blue sash muay thai - no ranks were given, but I trained for two years and had two fights. karate - none given - I trained with a japanese guy who only gave three ranks - white, brown and black. He moved back to Japan before I tested for brown under him. kali/jun fan - none given. trained in it for two years while I was trainined muay thai.

Funny, I've always seen those as sport arts. 1. they spar full contact on a regular basis with the techniques they will use, as opposed to only simulating contact with eye gouges, groin strikes, etc. 2. sport or not, knees hurt. so do elbows and throws. 3. remember the locks are breaks. several people have been choked unconscious and had broken limbs from not tapping in competition and in practice. 4. sport implies competition. competition implies training hard. you have to in order to keep up with your opponents. the avg sport fighter likely trains harder than the avg. traditional stylist.

Its true judo suposedly was strickly for combat but has evolved to adapt to competition. Before a hip throw was stickly dropping ur opponent on his head now its more competition wise, leaving that out. hmmmm, I thougth Jui-Jitsu was the combative martial art, then Judo came as a non-injury causing sport from JJ. Doesn't matter. 1. if you get thrown on the concrete, it will hurt - especially if you don't know how to fall. 2. the throw will give you enough space to get away, provided you aren't fighting multiple assailiants 3. it's not hard to modify the throws for combat - you can figure out the modifications (or ask your teacher) and then drill them. Examples: Hiza guruma - instead of hitting the knee from the side, you hit it head on, snapping it as he steps forward. ippon seionage - don't turn your waist when you throw - bend straight over sending him to the ground head first. tsuri komi goshi - basically sends you over head first anyway. osoto gari - push back on the chin instead of the shoulder, slamming the head into the concrete. ko soto gake - the chin push applies here too.

ANYTHING can be effective, you oonly have to train properly.

If you REALLY think that boxing can't be used for the street, then you are SADLY mistaken. my guess would be that anyone who says that has never sparred a boxer, let alone fought one. remember, boxers also hit the bag without gloves. Think about the old saying - "I'd fear the person who practices one technique 1,000 times more than the one who practices 1,000 techniques one time. While these "deadly" traditional systems spend their time working forms, weapons and light contact sparring, the boxer is drilling his same 6 punches over and over... doesn't matter that he doesn't kick, elbow, etc. he's a master at what he has.

even if it was a joke.... I wouldn't have shared that one... Anyway, Sambo is basically russian judo. It has a lot of throws but the flavor is a little different and they allow leg locks, I believe.