SevenStar

Thanks. I was in desperate need of a good laugh today.

agreed. no different from many other MA out there. It's the McSchool syndrome.

#5 was juko kai. I think that list was quite skewed though... I wonder what they based that on

I'm in TN - Memphis. I train Judo under three time national champ cc wilkerson and train bjj under some purple belts at a Royce TA. I have friends and family in Chicago, and when I go visit, I train with a group of kuntao/shuai chiao guys. In the past I spent two years in muay thai and 4 years in a system of longfist under master John Tsai's lineage.

they're not prohibited in practice - the choice is yours to make. There is a guy at my school who wears an ear guard - it's just a nuisance though - it will not stay in place. eventually, he just takes it off. There are guys in class who just get their ear drained whenever it develops. I have been fortunate enough not to get it, so I can't speak from experience. I've heard rumours that wallid ismael won't promote anyone above blue belt rank if they don't have cauliflower ear.

I would NOT rely on bites and pinches. same with pressure points. they are mere nuisances at best, especially when adrenaline is pumping.

two words: knife defenses Also, these "defenses against other styles" that you see alot. just because you throw a roundhouse, that doesn't mean it's a thai roundhouse. Just because you train to defend a sloppy tackle, that doesn't mean that you are capable of defending a good double leg.

Like I said before, the style has alot of infighting. the techniques were hidden, as practice was prohibited. Regional is more wushu-like in nature and does not stress the combat aspects. From what I understand, regional does. I've seen other clips where you see the elbows and takedowns as they're moving...I'll try to find them.

Exactly. But, maybe what if you went along a slightly different path with your paper? Can you do not on most effective MA, but instead on most effective techniques? In which case you can group them together and write about them. For example, retraining tactics are widely used by officers. You can then outline restraining tactics of various styles, and how they differ.

judo. seriously. my coach is 73. he started when he was in his thirties because his daughter was training in it also. (she's a black belt now also) he went on to be a 3 time national champ. He's still going strong. He can throw us, and he does groundwork with us, but of course, we don't throw him much. His ground work is fierce and he can kill us all at will.

wish I had some of the infighting clips. This is a takedown a guy used after having a roundhouse kick caught. The timing of the takedown is great. http://www.memphisclubscene.com/Takedown.mpeg

lol. was he training regional or angloa? I'll put that vid up tonight, if I remember.

see what I mean? no real experience with a boxer. Some of the meanest streetfighters I knew were boxers and wrestlers.

I've mentioned boxing several times. I think many of the people here are die hard traditionalists and think that 1. boxing is only a sport 2. since it has no kicks, locking, etc. it can't be as effective. If you notice, bjj and thai boxing get looked at the same way here. My guess is those who don't think it's effective have never sparred with one.

I am. I'll be at a Royce seminar.

*sigh*

spar a grappler...

what are you trying to counter? surely not a double leg...

many of those moves were adapted from fighting styles anyway. they just don't do them properly. the boston crab is a greco move. the rock bottom is a japanese throw - can't remember the name. The sleeper is just hidake jime. (rear naked) there are several other holds and throws that were adapted from various grappling styles. I even heard about one guy recently doing a triangle choke.

traditional styles weight train also - rock pole, rope pulley, iron rings, heavy weapons, etc.

yeah, pac is still around... as for this post, a better classification is sport arts vs. traditional arts.

dunno about ranking in tjj, but bjj will take a while. it may be a year before you even leave white belt status. You will not even be considered for a promotion until you can keep up with the guys one belt higher than you most of the time, and beat them maybe 25% of the time. You really have to prove that you deserve the promotion. BJJ is one of the few arts I've seen that is like this. as far as similarities, I don't think there are many, from what I've seen of tjj - tjj has striking, locking, throwing and groundwork, whereas bjj is really only takedowns, clinchwork and groundwork - it's a pure grappling style. very effective though. The training is intense and you really have to push yourself. It's great. No reccomendation as to what you do for self defense. I personally would train bjj and a sport striking style.

capoeira can be brutal. If you watch closely, you can see it. those kicks usually lead to some type of takedown, and there is a lot of infighting - mainly elbows. I've got a vid of a capoeira takedown of my PC somewhere. Like anything else, how you train it makes all the difference.

they can, but how many do... From what I've seen, most chinese styles and really traditional japanese styles seem reluctant to change.

considering he trained with mo, I'm sure he's done some thai boxing. I'd bet he's done some karate before also. However, some styles of karate - family styles, and also kyokushin - maybe others, but I haven't seen it - have a roundhouse similar to the thai version.