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Krava Maga Kung Fu San Soo Kajukenbo Budo Taijutsu Jeet Kune Do Wing Chun Atemi Ryu Jujitsu Arnis Koryu Bujutsu Hapkido In no particular order.

I would say clearly that Boxing is an art. That goes for the others I mentioned a well. I say the only way to appreciate art is to study it and try it. It clearly takes alot of discipline and skill. The whole Martial debate would just be agruing symantics.

Yeah that article makes a good point. I still prefer Combat based MA, it covers more scenarios than just one on one.

Heavy bags, pads and such. Sometimes an occasional karate practioner. eheheheheh. Just kidding.

Think of it like running into a treebranch or being close lined. Aikido people don't beat you up, you do it yourself.

If boxing is not a MA which is O.K. by me if it isn't, than what about Judo? What about Kick boxing? Muay Thai Kick Boxing? Aikido? Karate? Were these really used in combat. If so can anyone tell me what battles were fought using Muay Thai or Aikido. Just curious.

Thanks SaiFightsMS, I knew I was on the right track. It makes sense for certain weapons to be proportional to your height. Kind of like a bike frame should be appropriate depending upon how long your legs are which generally follows with how tall you are.

As we all know hardwoods like Oak, Hickory, Walnut, and such make slightly heavy and extremely strong Bo staffs. I'm a heavy guy so I can wield a pretty heavy Bo. Lighter people should stick to lighter Bo's unless they like heavy ones. I do think though that the length of the Bo is susposed to be proportional to one's height. Traditional Bo staff lengths are usually based on the stature of Asian people from long ago. Western people are usually taller and the Traditional Bo Staffs will seem a little short. For example the average height of an American is about 5'9'' and the average height of a Japanese person in Pre-War Japanese was about 5'4" maybe. So the 6 ft. Bo staff was aleast 6 inches taller than they were. So I would think that based on your own structure and height the Bo Staff should be about 6 inches to a foot taller than you. I can find out with my teacher whom is very knowledgealbe about such things.

Aamorn KSW Isn't that considered a quarter staff?

Shouldn't the Bo be atleast a foot taller than your height? I was told that a traditional Bo staff length is 6ft. But you are tall the Bo should be taller to compensate for your height.

I don't know what that even was. That guy was just trying keep students making by them believe they can do something against a grappler when your already in his guard, HA HA HA. I'm a firm believer in BJJ being one of the best on the ground, learn it or learn to avoid it. I highly recommend BJJ for ground fighting to anyone. Another thing I used San Soo as an example against multiple attackers and those videos weren't very good. My teacher never made a video, but he was a bad mofo. He had actual Combat experience, this guy was nuts. I also recommend Budo Taijutsu for multiple attacker scenarios if you have the patience, it's not an easy art to understand. Once you do understand, it is awesome.

No I don't, but I'll ask around.

Yes it does take alot of practice, it's really fun to do. Unless the 2 attackers have had alot of practice attacking one person, well that might be another story. Hopefully you'll sense that these guys have experience and run or pick up a foreign object and use it to your advantage. For example in a bar it could be an ash tray, bottle, glass, knock a stool in their path. On the street depending on where you are there might be some things around you can use. It all depends on you. When you go into a place look at the entrances, exits, and what could be used as weapons. It sounds nuts, but if you do this long enough it become part of you and if a situation breaks out, you will have an advantage. Another great thing to carry with you anywhere you go, is a nice strong metal writing pen. This can be used in many ways that are very effective. You can take a pen anywhere, no one will question why you have such a lovely pen.

I said I'd give one example. You're talking about 2 attackers attacking at the same time? Go to one or the others left or right make them change their postion, try to get one in front of the other. I can't know what these guys will do, these are tactics to help you. You have to create the situation to fight one at a time or kick one in the groin, hammerblow the other on the nose, shift back and backfist the temple shift back again, stomp the knee (breaking it) shift back hip toss, crash bam boom. What can I say too many variables and I was only giving one example. All I'm saying is if this interests you, study an MA that deals with this stuff. There's alot to it.

After you hammerblow his nose, kicking to his groin bending him over, you can hip toss him, you can grab the back on his neck and drop you weight while pushing his head to the ground and sweep or kick his support leg so he falls on his face stomach down stomp his head. If he shoots in sprawl and guide his head to the ground and give it a nice slam on the pavement. Stand and stomp, but make sure you control the fight by drawing him in. Also there are so many variables here so if you want to learn this stuff study an art that teaches it. Get in a stance lower than his and give him a juicy target, he'll be stupid not to take it.

That's why alignment is crucial. Unless the guy is so mean he doesn't mind knocking his friend out to get to you. That's one mean mofo.

Shizen is just standing in somewhat natural position. This is the best place to start and if you are attacked in a real situation you will probably be in this position anyway. I think it's very important to teach techniques from Shizen. Once the fight starts your Kamae will alway save you. Your kamae can be super wide to very natural depending on what feels right to you. Do what works.

Well it's kind of hard to explain in writing but here it goes. All this depends on the situation and countless other factors in a real situation, so I'll give one example. 2 guys in front of you, hopefully you have some distance between you and them. Draw one of the attackers in, be creative. Angling your body will leave him a nice target to go for and more than likely he will take it. Say you draw in the guy on your left, so his friend is to the right of him. So guy number 1 goes and tries to punch you on the left side of your face that you left open for him, now if you angle away to your right striking his arm with your left simultaneously hammer blowing his nose and flowing right into a groin kick and taking him straight down onto his stomach by pushing his head straight to the ground. You can kick his support leg too if this will help get him down faster. Basically there are countless of things to learn about BALANCE POINTS, THROW SIDES, taking advantages of things that present themselves. So stomp his head, he is out right in front of the other guy. If attacker number 2 want to get you he will have to go straight over his friend or around him. Now you can take him down in a similar fashion if he still wants to fight you after you just destroyed his friend. I hope this makes some sense cause it's hard to explain unless you train for this stuff. Understand this stuff is never full proof just like anything else so unlike the guy who wrote the article I've only had to fight more than one person once in my life.

Well you want to move to a place where the first attacker will be in front of the second, to line them up without them knowing. This makes it hard for the second attacker to attack. When you hammer blow the first one in the nose breaking it and front kick him in the groin, take him down while still standing of course and stomp his head. Now his buddy will either come in and attack or will attend to his friend. San Soo trains you for this kind of stuff BJJ doesn't to my knowledge. No disrespect to BJJ it is a great grappling art. We used to train this kind of stuff every class 2 to 3 people attacking at once. They all could do whatever they wanted to. So you didn't know what was going to happen, and after awhile you learned that your alignment is crucial. I encourage anyone to study San Soo it is one of the most street effective MA out there. It is completely brutal and vicious.

That was an interesting article, but was he talking about 2 guys with no training? Also he's a heavy weight so I assume his hits are damaging especially if the attackers are of average size. Well if that works for him, it works for him. That's great. There are other ways of dealing with that, that are much better. Generally BJJ schools don't teach multiple attacker defenses. San Soo is much more effective with multiple attackers, and I'm not dissing BJJ O.K.

I live in the US in California and I do get that attitude sometimes. They have the attitude like it wouldn't work in a real fight. Sometimes if I know the person fairly well I'll get them in a wrist lock or take their balance and hold them at that point where if I let go they will fall. This usually shuts them up pretty fast. Others are just plain ignorant, so I just let them think what they want. Most Americans are pretty ignorant about anything Non-American. They think foreign things are some how not good. I disagree with these types of people. I've noticed that people from other countries seem to be more interested in things that are foreign to them, maybe not the French. For the most part Americans don't share an interest in foreign things.

Fernis Wolf were they Budo Taijutsu students or Ninjutsu? Just curious.

These are the nine schools or styles within Budo Taijutsu that most people have not heard of: Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu Gyokko Ryu Kosshijutsu Kukishinden Ryu Happo Hikenjutsu Koto Ryu Koppojutsu Shindenfudo Ryu Dakentaijutsu Takagi yoshin Ryu Jutaijutsu Gikan Ryu Koppojutsu Gyokushin Ryu Kosshijutsu/Ninjutsu Kumogakure Ryu Ninpo

Your absolutely right Shotochem, timing is everything.

Grab his arms near your throat and shoot your hips back really hard to cause him to bend forward, now drop your hips lower than his directly under your body so that your back is straight and twist. Put your back leg in back of his leg nearest your back leg and drop your hips again. Now you should be in back of him and he should be bending backward off balance over your leg. This should be done in 2 movements. It's really easy. Control his spine and you control the fight.