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It's effective, but limited. I don't think you will ever see an Aikidoka is any of those fights. They are very against that sort of thing. Aikido is based on Old Jujutsu minus the strike and the really nasty stuff. It's a beautiful MA, very graceful. I think it's great, but it's not designed for competition. A lot of Aikido is small joint manipulation and when this stuff is done at full speed, bones will break, joints will tear. This type of stuff is illegal in those types of fights.

Icetuete what are you studying? That symbol you have looks like TKD or Karate.

I think I can answer that Icetuete. Challenging someone will make them ready to fight. Being attacked is another story.

Kano's Judo was not a sport and was brutal. Aikido is more spiritual than anything, but can be very effective as well.

I was reading a book on Jujutsu before 1800's and it was very interesting to learn that Jujutsu is another name for Taijutsu. Original Jujutsu is the father and mother of most modern Japanese styles of Martial Arts. For example Judo, jiu jitsu, jujitsu, aikido, kendo, sumo. Does anyone know more about this please let me know. Your source material would be helpful as well, thanks.

The MA's that focus solely on maiming and killing your attacker are Combat MA's and the others are something else.

Find a legitimate Koryu Bujutsu school, that has some killer fighting arts in it. It's basically old Jujutsu, it's awesome stuff. All Japanese MA's came from this stuff during the warring states period of Japan, this stuff is very effective.

I think it's more effective than Krav Maga. San Soo doesn't have high kick and flurries of punches, it's straight to the real aim of Martial Arts, to kill or maim. It's simple and deadly.

Well it's more like stomping the head or sternum, than kicking it. Sure it can be done by Joe Thug, but hopefully you're not the one on the ground being stomped. It is a brutal style, it was designed for hand to hand combat. When in Combat the aim is to move forward and incapacitate anyone in your way as fast as possible. That's why this stuff can't be a sport. Your aim is not to win it's to maim your attackers. You fight how you train, if you train for sport generally you will fight that way. If you train for Combat generally you will fight that way.

Well if you're the one receiving the technique you would hope the person doing it is taking it a bit easy. Understand that groin kicking, eye poking, biting, pulling hair are the least of your worries with San Soo. We did a lot sitting on someone's leg in a technique to break it, falling on someone's elbow and neck breaks, strikes to the throat, back breaking techniques, falling onto a persons chest with all your weight and stomping the head when you have the person down. Lots of dirty bone breaking techniques that happen with the way you apply the technique. Honestly I don't remember biting or eye gouging at all. Groin kicking is practically in every technique.

There's no air kicking. You always work with other people when learning techniques. We also did randori which is great. We used pads and bags for kicking, punching and certain strikes. You can practice certain things at full speed, but most of this stuff you just can't. A good analogy would be, how do you practice running into a wall at full speed? Try it if you're crazy, but sometimes simulation is necessary.

Half speed while wearing a cup. You get thrown a lot and banged up quite a bit.

There are certain styles that come close. I would say that Combat Styles (real one's) fit the bill quite well.

If you could come up with a fighting style that would work for any situation, it wouldn't be TKD. If people enjoy doing it then that's all that matters. I personally studied it, I didn't enjoy it.

I think that San Soo is some what limited. It's limited in the way that it's designed only for brutal combat. There are no submissions and the techniques are specifically designed to destroy your attacker. You can't spar with this stuff, but I don't consider that a weakness.

Soft counters Hard, and vice versa.

It's sad that eye gouging and biting are focused on as being the dangerous aspects of Combat Martial Arts. I guess you just have to really be emerced in your Art in order to understand the real differences. Keep believing what you believe about the styles displayed in UFC being the factor of success. I tend to believe it's the fighter that has the success. If you train for UFC competitions you will be good in those types of competitions. Yes, a fighter or anyone trained in a viable MA will do well against someone on the street in a fist fight, once weapons are introduced well that's another story. I train in a Combat Martial Art, this stuff works, believe me. We are not training to be in a fight we are training to protect ourselves and to get out of a dangerous situation as fast as possible. If that means seriously damaging our attacker in a few seconds and getting away, then that's winning. Surviving is winning. I happen to be a big fan of UFC, but I don't assume the MA's they study are the winners there.

Yes.

A little lengthy Hohan, but very well put.

I live in Glendale California and the nearest BJJ school is in the Valley which is quite a haul. My friend teaches there at the Machado school. I once asked him if he could get me in , you know at a special rate. He said that it is so crowded there it's ridiculous, and it's pretty expensive. I really wanted to check it out. Now I hear that in Pasadena they just opened a new school, which is fairly close to me. I'm going to check it out very soon, hopefully their rates are reasonable. Anyway train hard.

I agree BJJ is good, it came from Jujutsu and has a lot in common with Kodokan Judo. We have a lot of grappling in Budo Taijutsu which is basically Koryu as you know. I agree for most people concentrating on grappling is good. Most fights end up in a clinch (grappling) but not all fight end up with both people on the ground. In a real situation in an unpredictable environment the ground is the last place I want to be. I still haven't even skimmed the surface of Budo Taijutsu and I'm not in a hurry. If I find holes I will fill them.

Kirves I know what you're saying and believe me I agree, you learn more from doing. Panic is the true killer of MA, you have to trust in your training no matter what. With us it's trust your Kamae and it always works for me.

Aznkarateboi That's fine but what if you are protecting a loved one or trying to get through one person in order protect your girl friend or someone important to you. In some cased waiting for the attack might not be the best thing to do. All your options must be open to you, always.

Wind, fire, earth, and water are in a sense emotional states we all go through when fighting as well as in life. It can help you handle situations better. Use your emotions to help you not hinder you. Your body knows what to do, let it.

Kirves since you're somewhat of the historian here, do you know who coined that term "aliveness"? Just curious.