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Personally I think there are a lot of better ways to deal with someone shooting in. Striking isn't the best way, unless you already know where they are going.

That's why distance and timing are probably the most important aspects of any MA.

That's awesome KoreanTiger30. I always like to hear when MA's come in handy in a real situation.

TangSooGuy you seem to have a great teacher or else you have studied quite a bit to have such a good understanding. The things you are explaining sound like a foreign language to most people. Glad to see other systems of fighting basically employ the same theories. That's way I have a great respect for all MA's.

TangSooGuy's advice is very good. I also would like to point out that the pressure illicits a pain response that can be used to control an attacker, depending on the attacker. More importantly joint manipulation works best when you have your opponents balance and you can feel that you are holding them up with that lock and if you were to let go he would fall. If you want to break the wrist, elbow, shoulder joint it is done as a sharp application of the lock when they are falling. I hope this helps.

Well it depends what you study and after awhile you kind of get used to it. Even Boxers workout with weights, jump rope, and run for conditioning. I'm only making the point that learning to fight doesn't always equal getting into shape.

Very cool.

JKD Chick said: What are you talking about? I can't speak for Shaolin Kempo, because I've never studied it. But I study Jujutsu and I can assure you that it is very effective for self defense. I don't know what experience you have, but obviously you've never studied Jujutsu or you wouldn't be talking that way. As far Kempo, it looks pretty effective to me. You should come to one of our classes to see for yourself if it's effective. Bujinkan North Hollywood.

My point is timing is more important and effective than just blind speed. Also you can throw much more effective punches and actually land them if you are offline (footwork). Sure boxing develops fast hand speed, but what good is it if your opponent has equal hand speed. Also, using your body to create a strike has no recoil and is faster than striking with recoil since the strikes aren't telegraphed they are harder to avoid. So in a sense it is faster.

Chill bra! It's just hard to judge a book by it's cover. So you are basically saying to us in a very round about way that the club sucks and you want to see if we can tell that from the site? No! From the site it looks fine, just like any other. I think it's kind of weird that the chief instructor is only 3rd Dan though. I wouldn't pay to study under anyone below 5th Dan, but that's just me. I'm not a good judge of a Karate Dojo anyway, all my experiences with Karate have been McDojos. Not to say that there aren't good Karate Dojos out there, because there are. I've just never studied at one. So why don't you just come out and say what you mean, say you think this dojo sucks.

Try it out. Who cares about the site.

I don't think getting in shape by doing MA's is really the goal of MA's. Staying in shape should be done outside the Dojo. If you're too busy doing workouts in class when do you learn the techniques. I would check out what MA truely interests you and study it. Run everyday, work out, eat right, and train. I wouldn't look to a dojo for getting in shape. Yes, certain MA's are a hell of a work out. If I were you I'd concentrate on which MA intrigues you the most and study it.

In order to open one's mind, one must have a mind.

That's great! Why would someone with your experience and being around such great fighters make you such an ahole? If you have the training you have why do you show such insecurity about your talent by disrespecting other people. Are you a steriod user? I guess I'll read your response tomorrow, I got to go train.

I see that you haven't completely filled out your profile to what Martial Arts you've studied or what city you live in, or what your occupation is. So let me guess. You have no training. You don't want to give your location because you like provoking people on the internet and you don't want any repercussions. You are probably still in High School and you just grew a few muscles and now you think you're invincible. Right? That sting of anger you're feeling is due to the hormonal changes your body recently went through at puberty. If you are not going to give specific examples as to why you believe Kung Fu's are ineffective than be a man and don't make child like comments. I'd gladly show you some San Soo techniques, but someone with such a bad attitude would probably use them to bully people.

The Mighty Workman states: Workman those are big words. Don't diss Kung Fu because you're just showing how ignorant you are. I can't speak for all Kung Fu's simply because I've only studied one, Kung Fu San Soo. I challenge you to go to a Kung Fu San Soo school and attack one of the black belts, make sure he's your size or bigger. I think that's just being fair that the person you challenge should be your size or bigger. Just to educate you a bit, Kung Fu San Soo is a hard and brutal MA. It's only goal is to maim or kill you. It is considered a true streetfighting MA. I've used it several times before studying Taijutsu and I defeated every attacker easily in one or two moves. They either couldn't fight anymore or didn't want to fight anymore. So before you are so quick to judge something you have no idea about, do some investigation and find out for yourself. It's easy to live in a shell of ignorance. I don't mean to be insulting, I just can't stand bad attitudes.

It's all about marketing. Good marketing does not equal good product. Just because people buy it doesn't mean it good. They perceive it as being good, just like half the crap most people buy in their lives.

Well the 3 Ninjutsu Ryu taught in Budo Taijutsu are really the only ones being taught with any real application. Also the way Hatsumi is teaching Budo Taijutsu is very influenced by the Ninjutsu Ryu. The Samurai were Ninja and the Ninja were Samurai many of the times, so the Budo was essentially the same. The whole mysticism of the Ninja and all that came from literature not reality. They were all warriors, each with certain special skills. Some were spies, some were assasins, some were battle ready Samurai that only faught in battles. So you see Budo Taijutsu since it has that Ninjutsu being taught along with the Samurai arts is essentially very close to what the Ninjas actually knew as well. There are other Ninjutsu Ryu that were lost and some people claim to teach them, but it's dubious. Also Takamatsu the grandmaster before Hatsumi of the Bujinkan referred to what he was teaching a Ninpo Taijutsu (Ninjutsu), which is what Hatsumi is teaching at the Bujinkan. So it's essentially Ninjutsu, but Hatsumi didn't want to associated with all the fakes out there so he changed the name to Budo Taijutsu. He didn't want anyone to have any preconceived ideas about what he was teaching. I have a hard time telling people I study Ninjutsu so I just tell them I study Taijutsu which essentially Old Jujutsu. Then they usually ask, "Oh Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?" Like that's the only type of Jujitsu out there or something. I say not Brazilian, Japanese Jujutsu. It's always frustrating for me.

Well he's asking for advice and he already studies MA's and I'm sure it's on a dry floor. So practicing on a wet floor can be very helpful. If the effectiveness of a MA is going to be cancelled out by a change in environment, then it's probably a MA that isn't designed for reality. So if you are studying something that doing it on a wet floor will bring you more harm than your attacker, what good is it? So in order to see if what you are learning is truely effective, practice on different surfaces and environments. You could learn a lot.

The weapons taught in Ninjutsu or Budo Taijutsu are awesome. If you like weapons like the katana, bo, jo, tanto, kusari fundo, shuriken, yari and much more, sounds like a commercial for Ninjutsu. No, but really it's very cool. Like I said before the fighting aspect of it is almost exactly like Jujutsu with slight variations. If you are interested you should definitely look for a school in your area. Bujinkan or Genbukan Budo Taijutsu are excellent. I can't really give an opinion about other schools. I would be careful of school that claim they are Ninjutsu, but are not affiliated with the Bujinkan or Genbukan. They are probably not authentic Ninjutsu Ryu. I would be skeptical of Frank Dux's Dux Ryu or Ashida Kim and people like that. They may be teaching something that can be effective, but it's not Ninjutsu.

Train on a wet floor or ice, you will learn a great deal. You will see right away what is going to work.

I don't know what your asking exactly. Do you mean what type of MA is similar to Ninjutsu? In what way, the stealth stuff or the fighting? The fighting is almost identical to Old Jujutsu. The stealth stuff is something I haven't learned yet. I don't know if I am really interested in that stealth stuff anyway. If you are interested in that sort of thing, that's cool.

LOL! You're on a roll!

LOL!!! Nice!

Thank you JerryLove, very well put. If someone resists and they are pulling or pushing in a certain direction go with it and usually you will send them off balance again. You have to be sensitive to what your opponents weight is doing so that you can take advantage of it. Resisting can be exactly the response you want in order to take someone down. If the person is off balance and you have him on that edge where he cannot regain it and you have the arm levered, there's very little they can do. Also the flow of the movements are very important. If you pause this could be enough for a counter to happen. If you have good flow they won't even know what happened, because your not giving his brain and body time to realize what's happening to it.