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Check this site and clips out. This will give you a pretty good idea of what it's like. http://www.sansookungfu.com/Videos.html

Same idea if avoiding a punch. If you step to a 45 angle back to the inside or outside of the punch you will be standing on his balance point, the weakest point of his balance. I just gave you diamonds my friends.

Well I'd go with MMA school first as long as they are thorough with all aspects of fighting. I don't think started one or the other in any order will matter much.

Are you asking about triangulation in respect to balance? If you are just imagine a person standing normal with feet apart at hips width. If you were to draw a point on the ground between the feet and out to approximately the height of the person and connect them it with the front of the feet would make a triangle, two triangles to be precise, one in front and in back. That point is called a balance point, which is the weakest point of a persons balance. If the person gets into say a fighting stance where both legs are bent, leading foot pointing straight ahead, other foot at a right angle to that the triangle changes thus the point moves. The point now will favor the front because of the position of the foot. If you pull someone or throw them, bend them toward one of those points it makes it very easy to take them down. The muscle that support those points are extremely weak. I hope this helps.

Pretty fricken cool movie!

Well if you are not a professional fighter what makes you think you will stand a chance against a highly trained TMA practitioner. Hmm.

I'd say MMA is going to make you a well rounded fighter. BJJ is still a limited MA.

Both together is the way to go. It doesn't have to be metaphysical to be internal. Mind set is very important as well. Keeping your head is a very important aspect of fighting.

So you are kind of mirroring the punch being thrown at you? If that's the case that's not technically a block.

Scorcho could you be clearer? I'm not getting what you are saying? Thanks.

Hey Sano, what MA do you study?

Good point.

Whynot I never said TMA's were superior, I'm just trying to make the point that they are valid and they do work if trained properly. I just don't think the new is necessarily better, because like you said better is a personal opinion and not fact. You made some very good points that I cannot disagree with. It is good to have these kind of debates, because learning is what I'm all about. Thank you.

Stold said: So those Kung Fu guys represent the whole world and every Kung Fu system in the world? Silly.

Isn't that a Judo throw?

1OneFighting posted this: Exactly my point, thanks.

Popular or saturated? Popular BJJ, Saturated TKD, What I think you should do TJJ.

Good to know, thanks.

Well I guess if you are never the attacker you are right, but what if you have to be. If you are going to attack someone for whatever reason (hopefully a good one), I would think you will have to commit to some kind of movement. I can probably guess that your balance and movements come from your Tai Chi experience. Budo Taijutsu has many parallels to Tai Chi. So basically I understand what you are saying and for the most part I agree with you, but nothing is immune to gravity.

Yeah newer is better, huh. Yeah, we are all about quality these days. Yeah, plastic is better than wood. I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. I'm not saying just because it's old it's better. I'm saying that a system of fighting that has been tested for hundreds of years of Combat has more to offer than a new and improved get results fast type of MA. It's like comparing a College education to a Trade school education. I'm not arguing how big and strong we are or the advances in fitness equipment and supplements here. I'm talking about techniques and methods of fighting, whether it be hand to hand and or against a weapon (not a gun). Just how some of you think everything new is better, there are some of us that disagree. In our modern times we don't value things as much we have become very impatient and lazy. I think we have become that way because of technology. We won't results fast, we are all in a hurry for some reason. Also, if you lived in an environment of turmoil like Fuedal Japan, you'd be learning how to fight at a very young age, we do it for fun. We don't know if Kano or Takamatsu was still alive and young what they could do in NHB. We are all arrogant to think that they were no good when most modern MA are based on their methods as well as other Masters of old. We seems to have little to no respect for our elders and we think that our youth is going to last for ever. I've found a system of fighting that I know is effective and if you have that's great. The problem arises when you start taking credit for what somebody elses accomplishments and the only thing you have in common with them is you study the same Art or Arts. Thats like saying just because Michelangelo was great and I studied the same methods and techniques I'm going to be just as good, I doubt it. So stop taking credit for what others have done and please be aware that UFC is not the true measurement of MA's.

Phantasmatic I like your screen name. What MA do you study?

Hey boxers do all the time. Right? Yeah. If you missed you are simultaneously being hit.

How's hundreds of year of battle? What just disregard it as the past and consider all those survivors liers? Not me, I know what works.

I have a question. What if the person is wearing Combat boots? Will it a heel hook hurt less? Just wondering.

Hey this is a nice debate for a change. O.K. I think we kinda are arguing semantics. Let me see if I can make my point in a different way. The act of running is basically falling and constantly catching yourself as you use your legs to catch and propel yourself forward. There's photographs that show the feet at one point in the run completely off the ground. The off balancing, leaning, causes the movementum and your legs help it along. Take a horse for example that head juts forward to propel it faster and faster and we bipeds do a very similar thing. We are literally throwing ourselves forward and catching ourselves with the use of our structure. So basically we are in state of falling in a sense if you want to move with any real speed. That is natural speed, the speed of gravity added by your weight and some muscle to create a powerful strike. Now disagree if you want to, but that is how I've come to understand it and my technique as well as my strikes have become far more powerful than ever.