bushido_man96

What Shaolin is now, and what it may have been before, are probably two different things. From what I understand, I think the Chinese government pretty much controls what Shaolin is now, and hence I believe who gets to accepted to learn it is limited by the government in some way.

That's great! Have fun training with your daughter!

2/3/2022 Strength Training Squats: 45x5x2, 155x5, 225x3, 260x5, 260x5, 260x5. Press: 45x5x2, 75x5, 115x3, 135x1, 155x5, 155x5, 155x5. Deadlifts: 225x3, 295x2, 315x5. MA Training TKD Testing: 6:00 - 7:30 pm. We had another small testing, but a pretty good one. The kids keep improving! 2/4/2022 Strength Training Bench Press: 45x5x2, 115x5, 155x3, 205x1, 232.5x5, 232.5x5, 232.5x5. Power Clean & Jerk: 105x2, 120x2, 120x2, 120x2, 120x2, 120x2.

Happy Chinese New Year to all those that celebrate!

Amen to this! I agree, 10000000000000%! I would suggest to anyone that if they find they have a knack for teaching, or have the desire to give it a try and learn how to do it right, then do so. It is such a boon to your training. It also ups the level of accountability to yourself.

Lots of good advice from Bob here. I've never been a part of a school that has done an award like this, nor do I think I'd ever consider doing it. I do see how an award such as this, especially if it is done the right way, could be a great motivator to other students in the school.

This goes to show that one can find individuals with great, valid intentions within organizations like this. I think what you and your friend are trying to do is admirable, and the longer you keep it up, the more things will come to fruition in your training in the future.

You have an interesting take on breakfast, Himokiri Karate...mine this morning was five eggs, a chicken breast, and some toast.... That aside, this is an interesting conversation to follow.

2/1/2022 Strength Training Bench Press: 45x5x2, 115x5, 155x3, 205x1, 230x5, 230x5, 230x5. Power Snatch: 75x2, 95x2, 105x2, 105x2, 105x2, 105x2, 105x2. Stretch: hams, quads, glutes.

Congrats, ashworth! Well deserved!

So, I don't the exact details, but this is my best guess. The ATA, after it was founded, began formulating it's own forms. I would say that it is the entire sequences that were trademarked for use solely by the ATA and it's affiliates for teaching and testing purposes. I understand why they did it, based off my experience with other schools. Take my current school: we use the Chang On forms, used in the ITF. But, we don't use them all, and if you were to watch videos of how we do the forms side by side with how someone like DWx and her school does them, you'd see some very marked differences. And if I wanted to go start my own school tomorrow, I could use those forms as well, even if I broke away from the organization. The ITF doesn't have a trademark on them to prevent anyone else form using them; much like the way Karate forms show up in various styles with some differences. The ATA doesn't have to worry about this. It also helps the ATA in training it's instructors, and also adds a measure of quality control to the performance of the forms. I knew that I could go to any ATA school in the nation, and if they asked me to perform one of the poomsae, I know I'm doing the same form. I'm not saying the ATA has the best approach to forms training. Just explaining it as I understood it from my time training in the organization.

Welcome, HM756!

1/31/2022 Strength Training Squats: 45x5x2, 155x5 225x3, 255x5, 255x5, 255x5. Press: 45x5x2, 75x5, 115x3, 135x1, 152.5x5, 152.5x5, 152.5x5. Deadlifts: 225x3, 275x1, 310x5. Stretch: hams, quads, glutes. TKD Class: 6:30 - 7:30 pm. Black Belt Class. Do-Kangs 2-4, doing 2 twice and 4 by count. Then we spent time on Ho Sin Sul, doing defenses against bear hug attacks, finishing with an application of the down block into front stance from Chon Ji hyung.

Thanks for the response! At the outset, let me say (for the sake of bushido_man96 and anyone else reading this), my comments and questions below are not ment in any way to necessarily disagree with or question what he (bushido_man96) has said. I like to ask questions...because questions (and the resulting answers) helps me better understand. Sometimes, when I question things, people will think I am in disagreement with them or what they have said. Not necessarily always the case... All good with me! I don't mind some disagreement...after all, we won't always agree on everything as people in general (and I know you and I have already had some disagreements, which is ok!). So, I could get into the history of TKD, but I will not do that. Instead, a little of my own MA history. I started my career in the American Taekwondo Association (ATA...yep, that organization), and earned a rank of 2nd degree black belt, along with an instructor certification. I owned a school for a short period of time. When I moved away from home, I joined a different school, Sun Yi's Academy, which is in the Traditional Taekwondo Association (TTA). The ATA has it's own set of forms that were created and trademarked for use only by the ATA and it's affiliate clubs and schools. The forms are set up as testing requirements, and with that in mind, the forms reflect the basic movements learned at each belt rank. They are great for progressively challenging the student's physical abilities, and aside from some possible sparring combinations in pieces of the forms, they weren't designed with self-defense applications in mind. We had one form per belt rank, along with assigned one-steps, etc. When I joined Sun Yi's Academy, the organization used (and still uses) most of the Chang-On forms, which the ITF uses (with some differences, most notably, the absence of sine wave). Anyone who has done and seen the ITF forms, and has researched any at all into some Karate forms, most notably Shotokan, one can see similarities in some of the move sequences in the ITF forms. Gen. Choi had training in Shotokan Karate, so this is not shocking. A common theme of late has been to study up on the Karate applications of these segments of the forms, or of individual moves, and do some reverse engineering so-to-speak of some applications of these moves or segments of moves, based on what others have learned and shared. I've read several books on the subject matter, and I find most of it to be fairly relatable, and at least worth learning and trying to apply. With all that said, I did not learn these applications from any of my own instructors while learning the forms. The forms, one per rank in the TTA as well, were part of the rank requirements, and we trained them as such; attain technical proficiency in the moves sufficient to meet the standards of passing the test. None of my instructors were taught these applications, and therefore none were passed on. Instead, self-defense was learned as a separate part of the training curriculum (and unfortunately, not a focus). So I don't get to spend entire classes breaking down forms applications and training them. I have to single out a partner willing to work with me on it, and train it that way. Most of my classes were the exact same, minus the oyo session. Basics, forms, one-steps, and then sparring. In the ATA, it was a point sparring ruleset that allowed no punches to the head. In the TTA, it's been similar, but using the Olympic ruleset (another curiosity). We do forms work, but no applications work, at least not as part of the structure of the class. You have to understand, though, that I was "raised" this way in my MA upbringing, so didn't know any different until I started learning about "bunkai" later in life. I still found value in the forms, in the pursuit of technical proficiency, and I always enjoyed forms competition. Now, when I do forms, I think more about possible applications. Being mostly a TKD practitioner, we use Korean terminology. A similar term in Korean would be Hae Sul, which I'll use at times, but I'd rather use English terminology, to avoid confusion and make myself more easily understood. So, that's me, in a nutshell.

Many of us here do. I can see exactly where you are coming from. I was young once, too, and I was where you are now. As your career and experience grow, so you will, and especially how you approach these things emotionally.

1/28/2022 Strength Training Bench Press: 45x5x2, 115x5, 155x3, 205x1, 227.5x5, 227.5x5, 227.5x5. Power Snatch: 95x2, 95x2, 95x2. Power Clean & Jerk: 105x2, 115x2, 115x2, 120x2, 120x2, 125x2. Stretch: hams, glutes. I really enjoy the Olympic lifts. The first set of snatch was clunky, but after that it felt better. Last set of clean & jerk was tough. But the racking of the cleans was really good today.

Those would be some interesting things to see. I did like seeing D'onofrio back as Kingpin, and I really hope to see more of him in the future. He's such a great villain throughout the comics, and it'd be a shame to squander him in one series or movie. He should be a Thanos-level villain, and not a one-off. I thought it was unfortunate, the approach the Netflix version of Iron Fist was taken. I did love Daredevil, and I believe Charlie Cox is still in the fold to play the character again.

This kind of story has run rampant through the annals of MA training, back to when it was one master and one student. At times, I wonder how much of it is actually the case. I also realize that with enough time and training, one can probably figure out those things that have been left out of the teachings. There are only so many ways the body can move, and I think the bulk of possible applications have been exposed over the years. Often times today, seeking another style replaces the seeking of another master.

It used to be difficult to me to lose students. I've had several students that were quite talented walk away from it. I don't let it bother me anymore. I can't make someone love it as much as I do.

I got to watch this the other day. Overall, I thought it was an ok movie. The choreography was fun, and kind of a throwback. I look forward to seeing where Shang Chi fits in with the rest of the Marvel universe. I'd really like to see if they are planning anything with Iron Fist. I know Blade is going to be back soon, and am looking forward to that. I really enjoyed the Wesley Snipes Blade trilogy (actually sat through it last night!), but if I recall, they changed things up on the Blade origin for that trilogy, and in the original comic run, he wasn't half-vampire. So I'll be interested to see what route they take with Blade.

1/27/2022 Strength Training Squats: 45x5x2, 155x5, 225x3, 250x5, 250x5, 250x5. Press: 45x5x2, 75x5, 115x2, 150x5, 150x5, 150x5. Deadlifts: 135x5, 205x3, 275x1, 305x5. Stretch: hams, quads, glutes. Misloaded the damn weight on the squats. Should have been 260 for 3x5. Oh well. Threw in the deadlifts today because I had time while the kids finished up their workouts. I would like to go back to a three day per week schedule.

Thanks for the comments! Much appreciated... Just curious, is this along the lines of what you teach and use or something different? Thanks again! I don't delve too much into using Japanese terminology, so I avoid all those issues by using English in my classes. I will usually just use the terms "self-defense" or "applications" depending on what we are working on. Unfortunately, we don't delve much into forms applications in our school. We weren't "raised" with it, so to speak. I do try to work on it when I get a chance to do so.

Welcome back to KF, crash!

1/24/2022 Strength Training Squats: 45x5x2, 155x5, 225x3, 255x5, 255x5, 255x5. Press: 45x5x2, 75x5, 115x3, 145x5, 145x5, 145x5. Stretch: hams, quads, glutes. 1/25/2022 Strength Training Deadlifts: 135x5, 185x5, 225x3, 245x1, 295x5. Bench Press: 45x5x2, 115x5, 155x3, 205x1, 225x5, 225x5, 225x5. Stretch: hams, quads, glutes. Last rep of set 3 on bench got off kilter. Shoulder was not caring for it this day.

Thank you for taking the time to lay out these terms. It is very interesting seeing this more in-depth, and quite enlightening.