GhostlySykanRyu

And then again, you might also be beaten into a bloody pulp because of your bloated ego Even if you come out on top in the fight, you've already lost...

How exactly is it unavoidable? If you managed to actually plan the fight with the other person, it can't be over too dire a matter.

I'm pretty sure that it isn't competition, I just didn't want to offend the original poster of the topic in outright assuming that it's a brawl

Throw down? Sparring or "street" fight? If it's the latter, the best advice you can be given is to simply avoid it. MAs are for defending your well being, not your ego. That being said, if you're referring to a sparring session or MA competition, just relax...theres not much else that will help you within a day's time. But since you mentioned "seriously injured", I guess we're talking about a street fight. Do yourself a favor, don't stoop that low...

I agree that ki can help you in many areas, such as lifting...and these things can lead to your goals. Read an article in the latest Muscle & Fitness magazine...the world record for most amount lifted with the legs the most times belongs to a rather thin man. He says that his strength comes not from his body (which is obvious in his case), but from meditation and prayer. I'll type up some more details tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Looks like you'll need to be VERY careful with anything involving falls/throws. Good luck!

Aye, looks like Diego is going all the way, though it's hard to say if he'd be able to mix it up with the big boys. At this point I just want to see Lieben beaten...

A man is at the bar, really drunk. Some guys decide to be good samaritans and get him home. So they pick him up off the floor, and drag him out the door. On the way to the car, he falls down three times. When they get to his house, they help him out of the car and, he falls down four more times. They ring the bell, and one says, "Here's your husband!" The man's wife asks, "Where the hell is his wheelchair?"

Nice choice. Congrats pineapple.

Very interesting... I'm sure letting you view those pictures was risky for your Sensei!

I've had some luck with the JKD trapping techniques actually, didn't really try anything else from BB...

"point taken. But there is a difference between proficiency and mastery - that's what the phrase is pointing out" Suppose you're right. It's all context with that phrase anyway. "No, please comment on it. in order to understand a competitor, you really have to be one...competing isn't in everybody. But for the one's that it's in - they enjoy it. By "we like to fight" I'm not referring to street fighting. I'm referring to competing. If it's in you, you like it. If it's not, you won't." Never mind, misundertood your comment then. My mistake. These debates have gotten out of hand (not this one as much as the other). I'm done restating what I've already stated, hopefully others will follow suite.

I'm not that interested in MMA events overall, but I still enjoy reading the "Fight Sport Times" at the end of the BB mags. Better than nothing I suppose. I'll have to go on Inside Kung Fu's website.

"why don't you think so?" The more you train in something, the more adept you become. Training in various areas does not make you less skilled, it makes you well rounded. "actually yes. If for nothing else than intent. I know all of the guys in my class. Even with hard full contact, they don't want to knock my head off. I spar them all the time - no adranaline factor or various other issues. In competition, these are present, and your opponent is someone who is not your friend and who does want to knock your head off. " I guess that's more of a personal thing. I have friends who would gladly tear me apart, and who do try to knock my head off...because I tell them to. "where would the world be if everyone thought that? we would have no singers, no comedians, no sport fighters, no sports in general - no entertainment at all. Do ALL of these people lack humility?" In a way, yes. The humility (sub?)topic isn't really going anywhere, it's gone from finding humility to your actual definition of humility. "We compete because we like to fight" People who fight simply because they like to fight...I'm not even going to comment on that (well technically I just did).

Just a quick question for anyone who reads "Inside(r?) Kung Fu Magazine"...how is it, and does it cover more than just Chinese martial arts (was thinking about prescribing from a friend selling magazine subscriptions, description says "great source for general martial arts)? Thanks for any input.

The penguin....love the penguin...

Monty Python And The Search For The Holy Grail

"now apply that to a traditional guy... strikes, forms, kicks, chin na, qi gong, nei gong, iron palm, iron body, numerous weapons... who's really the jack of all trades here? And of the things listed above, how many can a person TRULY master? The "jack of all trades, master of none" definitely applies to traditional guys as well, but many of them don't realize that. " I'm not saying who the phrase applies to, be it TMA or MMA...I'm saying that the very phrase simply has no place in the martial arts. "the training methods are far less than realistic." How do you consider a fight in the ring more realistic than full contact sparring? Sure, kata and such are less realistic, but still they are helpful. "you don't believe that" Displaying skills in front of millions just because you can...that would be the antithesis of humility.

Visited the site for MAI... Looks like a great magazine, but shipping to the US is a bit more than I'm willing to pay for a magazine subscription right now. I'm sure 70 Euros is about the same (or even more by now...not sure) in US dollars.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Not overly familiar with those styles. When I started training with my sensei I had to keep relaxation in mind as well.

"Finding one without humility? What does that mean? Are you suggesting that all cage fighters, by definition, are not humble people/arrogant? " One who is humble will not display their skill in front of millions simply because they can, or to show up another style. "It wouldnt come to grappling? Grappling is NOT a style of combat, its a phase of it whether you like it or not. Thats like me saying that if Im aggressive enough there wont be any strikes thrown. If you're in a fight, you will see both strikes and grappling- thats what fights are. Besides, fighting with your heart is not neccesarily good, as you can run yourself into trouble by making mistakes- you have to fight with your head, not your heart. Again, you imply that we don't use grappling. Keep in mind where BJJ came from. You can try to break something down into phases, it doesn't matter. If a person is facing a grappler, and they are only skilled in stand-up, then they'd damn well better be able to avoid the clinch. If that person is adept and knows how to deal with a pure grappler, he can avoid the clinch. It's been done, and recently at that. Fighting with your head means you are thinking too much, thus hindering your actions. Methinks this will go in circles as long as we allow the topic to go on...

I liked when his brother said he was training to be a cage fighter...

Very good post treebranch, you're better at wording such things than I am. "I certainly do know that- find me a fighter (who's not a cage fighter) that can beat Fedor Emilianenko, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Tito Ortiz, or Randy Couture " That's the point, it would be just as difficult for me, especially in my small community. I'm sure I could find one with the skill to hold is own/trounce the inexperienced (by comparison) cage fighters...but finding one without humility would be near impossible. "Supposing those masters were certified under the governing people of that style." Which style of TJJ is this then? Not all styles fall under one organization, that would not be possible with the vast number of styles. "Evan Tanners problem against a more skilled grappler is simply that- the person is more skilled in grappling than he is." If he was more aggressive, it wouldn't necessarily come to grappling. If you're going to fight force with force, instead of using it to your own gain, you'd might as well do it to the best of your ability. "The bottom line is that no JJJ school had active randori on the same level that Judo or Jiu Jitsu did prior to the UFC events" But they did. You think that the vast amount of TJJ styles ALL changed their training methods because they saw a few other styles faring well in the ring? I doubt that more than half of the instructors even bother to watch the UFC. You really think that a person who's been training for 40 years in his art looks a a BJJ guy doing well and says "Oh my god! I've been doing it all wrong! All hail their style, we must conform to them! We are weaaaak.!" "Once again, we're not saying so much that they're ineffective as much as we're saying the other styles are MORE effective." Again, that is still inaccurate. You have no more to prove that one style is more effective than I do to prove the opposite. That's the point, there is no BETTER art. A simplified and condensed version of an art does not make it better than the original, it makes it easier, and it makes it quicker.

Loved it. Probably wouldn't have, but I know a person who looks and acts EXACTLY like Napoleon. Of course its a given: he gets a lot of flak for that...

" It just so happens that the best fighters happen to be the ones who are also fighting in the ring. " You don't know that. You're stating that because you don't know any good fighters outside of the ring, because you are obsessed with competition, as opposed to self defense. The fighters in the ring are GOOD foghters, who happen to have the strongest egos. "And whats makes you believe that MMA fighters always assume they have an advantage? " I'm not generalizing MMA fighters, what I stated was pertaining to you alone. "But what if those people were certified "masters" in that given style? " A "master" can be self proclaimed, and a master can be out of his prime. Not all traditional styles are the same. You said yourself that those who we call masters are simply better than us, not the best. "Well, it would be no more difficult to grasp than to train say, in BJJ, Wrestling, and Muay Thai." Grasping those three arts is no easy task, I do not argue that. "Jack of all trades does not mean hes not proficient- it simply means that person is more of a freestyle fighter with no preference as to what phase of the fight they fight in. " True, but such a phrase has a second part. Evan Tanner's problem against the grappler then, is not his training, it is his personal mindset. If he was more aggressive, it wouldn't matter. "traditional arts are a game, if that's the case. drilling with a cooperative partner, light contact sparring - even full contact - none of it is real, and is thus a game, correct? If you disagree, then explain what is more real about them. " In a sense, yes. In light of your life being in immediate danger, yes. However training methods such as that are not directly used to boost the ego, nor manipulated to fill the pockets. "you stated that masters don't compete against eachother" Where? "I disagree. especially in this day and age. actual physical MA training has little if anything to do with survival. We dont live in times where we are getting attacked daily. And even when we do, weapons are usually involved. We live in the time of the gun, and MA training doesn't help much against that. Not to mention that the majority of people out there will NEVER even get into an altercation after they reach adulthood. " So you're saying that MAs are now strictly sport? "perhaps his point is that their training methods are inferior." Everyone trains in their own manner. To generalize that all TJJ schools exclude something, and are thus ineffective, is inaccurate.