SevenStar

definitely work the shrimp. And get in the habit of going to your side as soon as possible. If he's passing your guard and you can't regain it, get to your side. Just be careful not to give him your back. when they are in your guard, constantly attack. move them to keep them worried about their base. If you have the opportunity, sweep them.

you could be right. But a buddy of mine is one of the best no gi guys in the country and trains under him...maybe he's just an exception.

If a particular fighter can use it, that doesn't mean that you can...It's great exposure, but if he can do it, then others should be able to also. Also, this is actually an old fight...it's from UFC VII. The reason why it came to light just now is because we just found out that that guy posts on another MA forum that we frequent.

Once you join, tell us where you are stationed. There may be MT in the city. The navy base here has a boxing gym, and the local police department has a boxing program also. you may want to look into that in the meantime - see if there's a boxing program in your area. the rates will likely be pretty reasonable.

I haven't had a chance to study shuai chiao formally yet. I have David CK. Lin's video tape series and that is how I get training for now. I love it though. If I could get into a school in my area I would quit jujitsu to study it. pasadena...I'll find out how far my teacher is from you. Don't quit bjj though - heck, he's an advocate of it. we're under the same lineage as david lin. My teacher was trained by dr. brian wu, who trained under gm chang tung sheng.

lloyd irvin.

No, it wasn't. It was derived from the ground portion of judo. It also adopted judo's ideal of randori....sparring in order to maximize skill level. The reason kano's judoka mauled the TJJ guys were because they did not randori. There are still TJJ schools today that do not randori. You won't find tjj or bjj schools like that. Also, TJJ employs alot of standing locks - those really aren't feasible in MMA, IME.

it's got a high rate of injury though... the soccer moms may not like it for that reason.

with the weight on the back leg, you are vulnerable to sweeps like o uchi gari, and possibly o soto gari. As you stated though, it's all in the mobility.

GnP isn't a system, it's just a technique that MMA guys employ. TJJ will not be a trend in MMA, I guarantee you that. they'll stick with bjj, sambo and wrestling.

honestly? yeah. Why? because he already had striking training, and he said that he used his FMA mentality to apply to his fighting. He's trained that FMA for over 20 years, so he could definitely strike without his kung fu. Now, had he not had any other striking training, then my answer would be no, he couldn't do it without kung fu.

actually, he listed two as his main styles. he said his hung gar, and he mentioned his bread and butter style, which is an FMA, and he said he has a filipino approach to his fighting. As for belfort, he was claiming bjj as his style. O was claiming his FMA as his style. None of it really matters though - he's a good fighter, which can't be denied.

which is why, IMO, they should be trained in motion. For the internal guys, I can see an exception, as horse is used to develop whipping power.

goshinman, where do you train shuai chiao?

no, they don't require a gi, but they are taught with a gi at most places. to do them without the gi requires modifications that not everyone knows how to make. Tai otoshi, for example is one handed when there is no gi. Many people don't think you can do that one without a gi. As far as popularity, judo is the most popular sport in the world, next to soccer.

and I didn't say don't credit CMA. jmd ONLY stated kung fu. I'm pointing out that there was more involved than kung fu, that way everything is credited.

it could be anything... remember gary goodridge? the kuk sool won organization gave him a 4th degree black belt and paid for him to enter the UFC, just so he could represent kuk sool won. He actually only trained in it for about a day. SIM, he's not solely a jj stylist. He didn't begin to train bjj until after he challenged royce and got killed. after that, he began to train bjj, and that was when he entered the ufc. kung fu has been represented in the ufc though, besides him there was david levicki and some others also. Avid competitor yves edwards trained in both kung fu and ninjutsu, but admits that he doesn't use any of it in his fights. Interview w/UFC Rising Star Yves Edwards (part 2) Reported By: Chris Colderley - 06.27.2003 02:00 AM By Chris Colderley The Texas Gunslinger, Yves Edwards, talks with Boxing Insider. In part two of this interview with Chris Colderley, Yves discusses his training, the development of the Texas fight scene, including his own “Third Column” team, and gives a new spin to marketing his image. BoxingInsider.com: I was reading through your bio and I noticed your background in MMA is a little bit different from a lot of people. Could you briefly explain that? Yves Edwards: Are you talking about my Kung-Fu experience? BoxingInsider.com: Yes, you also trained in Ninjitsu, I believe? Yves Edwards: Yes I did. I trained in Kung-Fu because growing up that’s all I used to see. Growing up I watched a lot of Kung-Fu movies. You know the bad ones with dubbing and the guys with the long white beards. I watched a lot of those, and I thought for a long time that was real, so I trained in that until I was exposed to some grappling, which was at a Ninjitsu school. I went in there when I was about 16 years old, and I wrestled around with a 14 year old and I couldn’t dominate him. I couldn’t really do anything to him – I got choked out actually. That turned me on to grappling so I started training with those guys. There weren’t the greatest, but they did have stuff that Steve Jennum and Scott Morris did [in the UFC]. They introduced me to a new way of fighting and as soon as I did it once, I was in love with it. Photo: TXMMA.com BoxingInsider.com: How much of your traditional background do you still use? How much have you kept? Yves Edwards: I use absolutely none of it! I don’t use any Kung-Fu in fights. I should one of these days - bust out a crane stance or horse riding stance or something . . . It was good for that time-frame in my life, but it’s not effective at all for what I am trying to do right now.

I have my karate gi from when I was 6 - 20 years ago.

you saw them hitting pressure points? When I was working, security, I never saw that, nor had I done it.

I don’t see how this could be done. The five animal techniques are distinguished from each other by the formation of the hand. The tiger refers to techniques that resemble a tiger’s claw. The claw hand is a strike that pulls, twists or rakes upon impact. Targets for this are the eyes, throat, groin, skin, muscles and wrists. The snake refers to techniques that use the finger tips to poke and jab soft targets. The crane is similar to the snake but can be used for more angular attacks. The leopard involves a punch that resembles a cat’s paw. In this technique the fore knuckles are used to jab areas such as the ribs. My point being that none of these techniques can really be “converted” into Jujutsu style grappling. The more and more I think about it, the more he just seems like a Jujutsu stylist that has grouped his techniques into five animals. This doesn’t make what he does kung fu in any way, just a big rip off of it. Like I said, at the time, I hadn't looked at his site yet. Now that I've seen it, I agree with you. however, the animals are about more than the fists they use. They each have distinct movements and attitudes.

sure you give credit to it. but you can't give ALL of it to it. why? because that's not all he does. When I win in a judo tourney, I can't say "well I won because of my 4 years of longfist training, and also my shuai chiao" - that would be a lie. I won because of all of my training - it all contributed.

yeah, that was awesome. don't forget the rest of his training though, as he said "halo, halo" means "mix". he's been training in a filipino style for 27 years and also has grappling experience.