SevenStar

Talk to him. I m only 26, and my spine is twiseted - my right side is further forward than my left. You can't look at me and tell, but is causes pain during training, running, and killed me when I was playing football. I still train 4-5 days a week in brazilian jiu jutsu and 2 days a week in judo and muay thai. Also, I had an awesome chiro, and worked wonders on my back.

That's exactly right. By stopping him, you show that you have control of the technique. Since that was not done, the throw goes to the agressor, as technically, his throw did work. Analysis of a judo throw kazushi - off balance tsukuri - fit in kake - execution All three are components of any throw in Judo. You had no control and no kazushi.... you just went with his throw and countered.

there is striking. It's not taught until advanced levels - that's the way kano wanted it. It's not a focus of the style, but it's there. regardless, a trained judoka will still put you on your butt...

I haven't read this whole thread yet, so this may have been said, but, let's change your question a bit... If you are practicing lethal strikes, but can't do them at full speed or power, against resisting opponents, you have no clue whether or not you will be able to do them in a fight. So, is it pointless to practice such techniques? I've been in the ring and knocked people unconscious. I've done the same on the street. And I didn't need a "lethal" technique to do it. Consequently, I KNOW that I can end a fight with my skill. Can you say the same with your untested "lethal" strikes?

jmd161 trains black tiger. He doesn't post here much, but you can find him and a few others that train it on the kung fu online forums.

I complain about 8 year old brown belts... Black belt is not the end, but a lot of people not surrounded by the ma world know that. They see black belt as mastery. However, even though it's not the end, it should be a sign of extreme proficiency, and that's not always the case. When I was an orange belt in karate, I was beating some tkd black belts I knew - that should never have happened. They shoulda wiped the floor with me. They did not deserve to be black belts, IMO. Although black belt is not the end, it's definitely not the beginning, and your skill should reflect such.

Culture isn't necessarily a factor. judo and muay thai are considered modern MA, but you will in many cases learn aspects of the cultures of both while training, bowing, the ram muay, respect, etc... The main factor, IMO is the training methods. modern styles are geared towards efficiency and producing a competent fighter quickly. There are few styles that will turn out a GOOD fighter as quickly as style like bjj, boxing and muay thai can.

Judo and soccer are the two most popular sports on the planet...

congrats, superfighter. You'll continue to love judo.

Drink water - it has fewer carbs seriously, this is a comparative arts forum. That's what this whole fourm is about, basically.

ninjas are mammals, and are known to flip out and kill people. Ninjas are totally sweet.

That post is the very reason there are so many of these McSchools today. As for Norris, I don't think that's true - I used to train at one of his schools. Even if it is, he trained 6 days a week, for about 5 hours a day, while he was in Korea. He trained in both judo and tang soo do. When he left Korea, he was a black belt in TSD and a brown in judo. So, however long he was in korea is how long he trained before getting his black belt.

TMA will always be around, because there will always be those that desire to learn them.

so, in a nutshell, ninjustsu is a recursive name (which you like, if you're a hacker) for an art that teaches ninjutsu, bujutsu, taijutsu, etc.

right, but they train different things - my understanding of ninpo is that it is basically several arts combined into one - ninjutsu is the art of stealth - that's what the ninja is all about, and (I'm guessing here) why the art is called ninjutsu. The locking and throwing is from taijutsu. The striking is likely from some form of jujutsu, and so on...

and to be more precise, having that instinct instilled is NOT the reason most people train. They train because the want to get in shape, but not by doing something mundane, like going to the gym. They train because they want to learn quick, easy self defense (a delusion that many schools feed into), they train because of what they see in movies, etc. If people only wanted to train so that they could become fierce fighters and have an awesome killer instinct, there wouldn't be so many McDojos and crappy schools aroung today...

everyone loves to think that... That's the thing. How do these people know? from point sparring? from not competing at all? They won't know what their fighting spirit is like until they fight... IMO, that's a bad time to find out. Also, there's more to it than spirit - that spirit, or "killer instinct" is present in many people by nature. Training in MA can actually be counter productive to it, because you are taught to pull punches, you light contact spar, etc. The guy that is trying to kill you on the street doesn't have such training. All he's thinking is that he wants to kill you. Like I said, when fighting that guy that wants to kill you, if you don't know what your spirit is like before the fight, then it may already be too late.

depends on the style. I've been in bjj for two years, and am just now ready for blue belt. The same time in judo, and I am a 3rd degree brown. In judo, as long as you know your techniques, are good with them, compete, etc. you can advance pretty quick until you get to 3rd brown. Getting from there through the rest of the brown rankings can take about 2 years. After you get your shodan, The time increases ALOT.

It sounds like most of you are referring to tkd sparring and karate point fighting. In muay thai, you wear headgear (no face mask - I almost laughed when I saw that), gloves and a mouthguard. you can wear a cup and shinguards - those are optional.

a kickboxing or MT school?

thai boxing is full of elbows: horizontal - like a hook punch, basically, upward - like an uppercut, downward, stabbing - straight to the solar plexus - stabbing is also used in a "dirty" technique called "cracking the elephant's tusk", cutting elbow - diagonal. There are also spinning variations. What gus is referring to is the cutting elbow - it doesn't really go around the guard , although it can - similar to how an overhand right does. But, the diagonal ideally goes between the fighter's hands. the horizontal elbow goes straight into their forearms and is blocked - when that happens, try the cutting elbow, as it comes from above and goes between the forearms.

I think every one missed the point of the topic though, except GMC - he's asking How you deal with pain, once it's been inflicted. you have just taken a hard left hook, you stagger in everything is spinning - if that hasn't happened to you, you haven't been hit HARD yet - what do you do to avoid letting him know that you are stunned? you just took a leg kick that has your leg on fire - you can't stagger, because once you do, he knows it's hurt and will continue go after it, not to mention becoming more aggressive in general, because he knows you're hurt. As for my answer, I think the answer for this is hard contact sparring. If you don't know what it feels like to get hit like that, then you will not know how to deal with it. That's one of the issues that fall under the "experience is the best teacher" label, IMO.

no offense, but I don't think it's adrenaline... you probably haven't been hit hard enough yet. When you get hit HARD, adrenaline or not, you feel it. If nobody felt pain, nobody would ever tap while grappling, begin to limp after a hard leg kick, etc. Adrenaline will mask some things - I always tell people not to rely on groin kicks in a fight, because while they can be effective, adrenailine can nullify the pain until afterwards. I know that from experience. Also, how much of an adrenaline rush do you get from sparring? It's only sparring. The only time I get a rush is in the ring. But maybe I spar more, I dunno...

step one is to get some formal training. If ou are trying to learn on your own, all you are going to do is ingrain bad habits into you by training them every day. That will hurt you in the long run if you ever do go get formal instruction. Once you've had formal instruction, just train the way you do in class - jumping rope, shadow boxing, do line drills up and down the floor, calisthenics, etc. If you have a partner, do thai pad and focus mitt drills, and also some sparring.