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Looks fairly similar to the Taekwondo forms Chonji and to Heian Shodan I thought so, too. One difference I noticed is that in the Shotokan forms, they will at times string two of the stepping techniques together, like a quick combination, where as I don't see any of that in the TSD or TKD forms. Like in Heian Shodan or Nidan, when they do the three stepping punches or high blocks, the last two get strung together with no stop between the steps, whereas in Kicho 1 and 2, or Dan Gun or my Bo Chung forms, there is a clear stop between each of the step-and-punch techniques. I'm not sure why, but I noticed it.

Ok, gotcha. That is how I teach and perform my turns in forms, as well. Its much easier for keeping balance and for controlling foot placement, in my experience. Thanks for the clarification.

Cool. Kichu ee bu for me looks similar. A bit less rigid then the first video and more hip doing the high blocks. Kichu ee bu http://youtu.be/bULgq3Hx13c Brian if you look at all shotokan forms you will see the TSD forms come from them for sure. Very very similar, but changes, same patterns but not identical techniques. I was pretty certain that most of the TSD forms had a Shotokan counterpart, and I'm going to try to pair each one with its counterpart for comparison reasons. Thanks for sharing your video with us! I notice in yours and one of the others, the leg isn't lifted as high on the stepping. Maybe that's an ITSDF thing.

Wow, that's quite the display. How has that been covered or documented recently? Has the KKW been questioned about it or given a statement or opinion?

Good point. But what I mean is, when was the last match held? Are there current rankings or standings?

Welcome back to the Martial Arts, and welcome to KF!

Thanks, Bob! I appreciate the support!

The ATA did this. They have quite a nice encyclopedia set.

Here's the second form, Kicho E Bu (Kicho 2): Another 20 movements, this time with punches to the high section, and high blocks. It looks a bit more like Heian Shodan than the Kicho 1 did, with the high blocks in there.

I'm familiar with the C-stepping; I've also heard it called "half-moon stepping." What do you mean when you say you "cut the corners off the turns?" I can't picture what you mean.

I absolutely agree. GM Kyu Hyung LEE, a legend in Kukki-TKD, became president a few years back. I think he saw how awful things were & stepped down. He was only president for about 2 1/2 months. Wow. Has he remained part of the organization?

I wonder if this is still popular?

Those are good points, Alex. I may attempt to run one, and see what kind of reactions I get. Maybe I can make it work.

Thank you, both. Bob, Kendall has been coached on proper hip movement, but as you well know, when you get out there with another person trying to impose his will on you while you do the same to him, its possible to get out of position. That happened to Kendall, and the other kid took advantage of it. As for the videos, I'm not sure if I'll be able to share many more or not. If I figure out how to do some transferring from our camera, I'll try. For now, though, I'll just try to run updates as well as I can.

I thought I'd kick this up again, with a twist, discussing Tang Soo Do forms. I have one book on TSD, and its well written and well put together, and it has always interested me in line to TSD and TKD having similar origins, but have taken very different paths in development. So, lets do some TSD forms. The book I have covers the International Tang Soo Do Federation. If there are others that are different, like in Moo Duk Kwan TSD, please help me out. I'll try to look more and see, too. So, form 1, TSD, Kicho Hyung Il Bu (Kicho 1): 20 moves, consisting of down blocks and lunging punches to the mid-section. One thing I did notice was the exaggerated leg lift prior to turning into the front stance with the down block (2nd video, and how its shown in the book I have). Its similar to Chon Ji, and also to Bo Chung, which is our org's hi orange belt form. Its also similar to this Karate kata, Heian Shodan: Some differences, like with the circular downward strike and the knife hand blocks, but similar, especially in the floor pattern it follows, an I.

1/13/2016 Strength Training Press: warm-ups: 45x5x3, 65x5, 85x5; work sets: 101.5x5, 115x3, 128.5x5. Assisted chin-ups: 135x10, 8, 8 (supersetted with press). Press: 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10 (assistance work).

Looks like a nice little place!

We don't have a syllabus book. I wish we did, as it would really help clear up some of the inconsistencies that show up from school to school.

I've kept up some on what goes on in the Kukkiwon, and it doesn't sound good at all, as far as regards the whole political mess. The idea of Martial Arts being "regulated" in some ways by government in order to get rid of the bad instructors or clean up other messes wouldn't ever be a good idea, in my opinion, because you eventually end up with what you have in the Kukkiwon.

Thank you, very much! I got all kinds of good B-day presents....the Chiefs finally got over the hump in the playoffs, and Kendall got a 2nd place finish at his wrestling tourney. Happy Birthday to you, Heidi!

Thanks, Bob, I have been smiling. It was great to finally see that monkey off their back. Not since 1993, and the opponent they beat back in 1993.... ....the Houston Oilers. Now, the Patriots are going to be a challenge, especially with Jeremy Maclin out. But with the winning streak they've been on, its been one heck of a ride this season!

Its a nice space. Please keep us posted!

I never, ever required my mother to call me "sir" or Mr. Walker. Out of habit, she usually called my by my first name, but she did call me Mr. Walker from time to time, to try to keep some continuity in the class. But I never required it, and if she called me by name, she had every right to; after all, she gave it to me. On the flip side, I usually ended up referring to her as mom in class.

1/7/2016 Strength Training Press: warm-ups: 45x5x3, 65x5, 80x5; work sets: 94.5x3, 108x3, 121.5x6. Assisted chin-ups: 135x10, 10, 10 (supersetted with press). Press: 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10, 67.5x10 (assistance work). 1/8/2016 Strength Training Deadlifts: warm-ups: 135x5, 165x5, 195x5; work sets: 217x3, 248x3, 279x8. Squats: 152x10, 152x10, 152x10, 152x10, 152x10. 1/11/2016 Strength Training Squat: warm-ups: 45x5x2, 135x5, 165x5, 195x5; work sets: 228x5, 258.5x3, 290x6. Deadlifts: 155x10, 155x10, 155x10, 155x10, 155x10. I worked on my squat form today, focusing on knees out more, and sitting back more. I noticed a difference, and am going to keep working at this.

Keep plugging away, man. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Its great to see that you have some support and help in your training.