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I once read actually that for a certain style of kendo, certain samurai to be would have to preform a day long kata which added up to be about 2750movements. Along with other grueling tests, such as in the least grueling test, a 250 consecutive sparring session with the other students, I'm not sure of the details though. This style doesnt exist I dont think anymore.

My view is similar to above. That the "perfect traditional" is meant for training, most or all martial arts encourage self development in technique and appling what is good for you. I train in my shotokan deep stances, but will i ever break down into a full Zenkutsu Dachi when forced into a real life situation? My point is that the traditional techniques that are trained with, are meant to develop your own body and what works for you, while using these "traditional" techniques in a sparring situation. That is also why I find it important to practice sparring.

Thats all to familiar to me. Its hard to control your anger when that happens as well. I've only recently been able not to get furious when it occurs. I'm guessing its some sort of teaching method...

I didn't know the movie even existed. Hmm

Yea, agreed. What I like about the gi I got somewhat recently is that its heavier so it provides a much harder work out, in all aspects.

Welcome then .

Quick question: Did you ever ask him why he wore a different uniform?

Great, what differences in training do you notice from your other martial arts experiance. it has a lot more cardio workout then the other arts i do and its more of a loose art, where chun kuk do is more of a strict art with the deep stances and chambers and all that. also the other arts i do are limited when sparring, for ex. in chun kuk do there is no elbows, no knees, and no kicking to the legs. jujutsu you cant hit at all its just submission fighting. and in bojutsu we use solid 1 1/2 inch think oak bo staffs but we have to where full body pads, the pads kind of look like kendo pads. and muay thai you can do alot more when sparring, you can kick the legs, you can elbow, and you can knee Yes, I think its a good mix to have that kind of scritness and solid rules one will get from certain martial arts like chun kuk(no knowledge of the MA), and mix it with certain Muay Thai aspects and individual freedom at earlier levels.

Ok I would take a look, however where could I find info on the topic? But wierd thing to watch. Like said below though, its pretty insulting to alot of people.

Ah, I may have exagerrated the meaning of that part, However its somewhat true. My father was in Shotokan while he was a kid, and he was insitant that I find a martial art. I went around to a kenpo class, it didn't quite suit me, then a Tae Kwon do class, and I really didn't enjoy that in the least. I got to Shotokan which I had expected to be a complete "mcdojo", but turned out I really enjoyed the first few days, of course when I got into the real classes(not beginner class) I was totaly discouraged and almost quit. Luckly when I told my parents I had wanted to quit, they wouldn't hear of it, and it wasn't discussed again. I think the main reason why they wanted me to take a marital art was control, I was always "rough housing" with friends and we always got carried away, although I would have expected the opposite result. I hope thats a sound response.

Oh, interesting...

It had better be good then.

I dont think this is as common as you think. I know at least my school and organization has white tops and bottoms.

Yea, all you can do is give him the path to develop his spirit, without his determination or courage, you will only waste your time. Perhaps this can be training for you also, a test of your teaching abilities in many different ways... But yea, I think your post is showing enough that in your situation you seem to know what to do in cases. Even though I have no experiance teaching and have many years to come before that will happen, I would like you said encourage him to train by showing him a side of martial arts that might appeal to him, he lacks fire, so he needs a boost, then he can grow(with your help). He may never be a Miyamoto Musashi, or a Mas Oyama, but I dont think it would be fair to declare the kid to not having a martial art potential, not yet.

Great, what differences in training do you notice from your other martial arts experiance.

Mind you, he also may be pulling some guilt tricks to in his own way get back at you for making him feel less of himself.

Welcome, and good luck with your training.

I'm might have already found this considering it took 3 seconds to find it but: http://www.samurai-archives.com/musashi.html Google has an endless list or links. I've also read some Martial art books that refered to this man, such as The Overlook Martial arts reader volume 2.

I just wanted to say how much Martial arts could have possibly saved my life. I made a decision with long time friends who I've seen taking drugs(heavy ones) and living without care and so unstressted. One of which gave up martial arts for and was very talented. I was offered last night, what made it more climatic was my class(shotokan) was around the same time they were going to do intoxicate themselves. Perhaps if it wasn't for the discipline I've received from Karate, I might have made the decision to join them, but I just couldn't...(theses were heavy ones too) I was forced into martial arts, I'd like to see someone force me out. My point is that if you ever question why you participate in your martial art class(I sometimes do), possibly this experiance can be shared as an example as to why we participate in a impossible indeavor, I hope it could help you reflect on your training.

Ok, I misinterpreded your post, sorry for that. Your point is very agreeable, I focused on the feeling I got from the first part, which led into other things.

I wont watch anything till it comes out...I look forward to it though.

As Andrew said, theres so much complexity to these seemingly simply moves. For example, a jab and a cross are two of the most basic punches to learn, yet why is one fighter such as Chuck Liddel so much more successfull in knocking people out with this simple combination than someone like Matt Hughes or Renato Verrissimo? Aside from that, the simplest techniques are going to be the ones that are going to work the most effectively in a fight- a straight cross to the jaw is responsible for alot more knockouts than a spinning backfist, and a standard armbar is responsible for more submissions than a flying armbar. Well this is looping back to my post of how these systems work for the average public in terms of compatibility. The message being sent is that I think these movements are not hard to master from me, when obviously they are because there wouldn't be any competitions if it was any different. Now that thats covered, I had never once said that simple moves dont work on the street, Shotokan and in my muay thai experiance both have trained me to rely on basics. My point is that these arts are generaly quicker to understand and apply. There movements are very familiar to the public, yet they dont understand the depth. When in comparison to some traditional arts, the public isnt familiar with quite a few movements and dont beleive in the effectivness at all. These moves are not simple, that was not being said, what the overall point was that these moves are the base of which the public base fighting off of in this society. For example for awhile boxing was extremly popular among the average person, they didnt understand the real depth, but growing up with it, they know what to look for in a general sense more than say kenpo.

Welcome As for how I'm doing; I'm pretty miserble as always. Have great time

Nice story, sounds like it was some exellent training... I remember the last time I was at a MMA place and a guy had me in some sort of situation where my shoulder was completly torn apart for a few months because I didn't tape out, but I still trained anyway...

Then we can go by the classic, agree to disagree saying .