elbows_and_knees

the roundhouse punch in boxing is the proper name for a haymaker. It's an actual technique, whereas the term hayamer is generally associated with a sloppy "street fighting" punch.

What he's talking about isn't a stance issue really, but a philosophy issue. JKD believes in having the strongest limbs closer to the target. this does two things: 1. gives you a strong leading attack 2. gives you a strong rear attack by giving the weaker limb more room to generate momentum The problem here (if you view it as one) is KO power. the weak hand may now hit harder, but it may not be enough to KO someone. The lead hand will not be either. Now, with the boxing stance, the weak side is forward. This gives you a weaker, yet usually faster jab, and it gives you tremendous power in the rear, because the already strong hand now has room to generate momentum.

Anything CAN happen, but that situation is A LOT less likely. We will have to agree to disagree... muay thai has spinning kicks, hook kicks, jumping elbows... A lot of people have no clue these techniques are even there, but they compete very effectively. Why? because you don't need EVERY tool to be effective. Talk to any judoka that competes on a serious level. Do you think he uses ALL of his throws? No. They will tell you that they focus on 8 throws - one throw for each direction - and they will have between one and three of those throws mastered. Those are their bread and butter techniques. my bad. I don't think it only has trapping. But since I know you do trap, I know you look for that opportunity. consequently, I have a follow up ready, or a feint of some sort. When I trained cma, I used to do this with our wc guys. Yes, you are making me trap myself, but you have to initiate the trap in order to get me to do so. When you attempt that pak so, your out stretched arm leaves your face unguarded, for example. it wasn't wc, unless he or someone in that lineage tried to create it by applying chin na on the ground. When I trained cma (longfist) we did that also... and it sucked compared to what I learned in bjj. it doesn't carry oever naturally and it's not in the system. by trying to apply standing grappling to the ground we are trying to reinvent the wheel... A lot of wc schools I hear of today have something they call "anti grappling" which is their attempt at countering ground fighters. But all of the wc people I know, from various lineages say that wc lacks groundwork. Out of curiosity, what is your lineage? I think that here, you are misunderstanding me. I'm saying that this is why people think WC is inefficient. By your own admission, only the most dedicated students receive the whole system. different definitions, IMO... I wouldn't consider 2 years dedicated and lifelong. I trained longfist for like 5 years before leaving. gotcha.

bingo.

yeah, that's what I was saying.

Why are you sparring with shoes? even when I trained kung fu, we did not spar with shoes on... In any event, wrapping will give the ankle added support, but if you are getting bad kicks in, I would be focused more on correcting that problem... Have your teacher watch your kicks and have him tell you what you are doing wrong.

it can be a planned attack, but you have to use it wisely. The problem with forcing it is that your opponent knows it's coming and he will pummel you to keep you away. You have to use it the same way you use your cross and your rear leg round house - you have to set it up. Work your way in close with punches, then fake a wide hook - you have no intention of landing the hook - you want to wrap that hand around the crown of his head and let that be your entry to the clinch. There are several things you can try, you just have to play with it.

In the long run, that is not smart. all you need is a heavy bag / makiwara / bean bag (iron palm type training) any of those three are fine. knuck pushups are good too. hitting rock is asking for trouble later in life. Just look at pan qing fu's hands...

short power...

Theoretically, sure. realistically, that doesn't apply to humans very well. look at lighterweight boxers. de la hoya and mayorga are both faster than tyson and lewis, but can they punch faster? when comparing trucks and sports cars, it's very valid, but much less so amongst humans... Could Bruce Lee's famous 1 inch punch be an example of the power of speed? He was small, but could deliver incredible powerful punches due to the speed that he hit people. I think that was more of an issue of proper body mechanics than speed. some arts refer to it as short power.

that's exactly what it was. taijutsu was also called jujutsu.

A more careful study of that site should reveal that the site is not as biased towards chinese styles as one may think. There may be like four articles there favoring MT and some honorable mention in others, but it is no secret that that site is biased.

not true. It's the training they receive that matters, not the person. You can take an awesome athlete and train him badly, and he has a good chance of losing to a couch potato that is trained very well. For this reason, style does matter - some styles use inherently better training methods. You shouldn't have to have all of the tools at your disposal in order for it to be effective, IMO. If you do, then the style isn't very efficient. It's not about extreme movements. ANY style should teach you to make your movements smaller as you advance. that's likely what he means by attacking the arm - you are attempting to trap it. If the guy was feinting, or if you miss the trap, you are now open for counter. A possibly safer and more efficient option is to move. sidestepping, for example. it needs ground grappling. And this is why people think it is inefficient. If you go to a thai boxing school, you will learn to fight. Period. They won't withhold info for only "the most trusted, lifelong students" Footwork is a major component of fighting and should not be hidden from anyone.

The problem with that is your teacher cooperated - he wasn't fighting. I would bet money that had he been fighting, dillman couldn't hit the same three points as easily, and in time enough to KO him. That's why I say it's not practical.

My favorite of all time was the 1st one. I still watch it today (have it on tape and dvd) the second one was really cool too. I hated the last two. I didn't start because of morita, but used to always hope to find a teacher like him. He will be missed.

Theoretically, sure. realistically, that doesn't apply to humans very well. look at lighterweight boxers. de la hoya and mayorga are both faster than tyson and lewis, but can they punch harder? when comparing trucks and sports cars, it's very valid, but much less so amongst humans...

You are referring to muscular endurance, not muscular strength. These are two different things. Endurance will not increase your strength. Here is a test. Find someone who can do 100 pushups and see how much he can bench press. Find someone who conducts proper strength training and see what he can bench. Compare the results. endurance and strength are not mutually exclusive.

No, not really. If you look at gjj self defense, it it stand up. If the fight needs to go to the ground, then take it there. During a time where relatively nobody knew about ground grappling, then taking the fight there was a stroke of genius.

bingo.

jjj has (had?) plenty of strikes. At one point in time, there were over 700 styles of jjj in japan. Some focused on striking, some on grappling and others on the ground. if you have taken a bjj self defense class, you know that it is oriented on standup grappling, not ground grappling. However, there are instances where ground grappling is very important... and I've used it in multiple attacker confrontations WITHOUT getting stomped...

did his top students have no students of their own?

That is part of the problem. Pressure point striking requires immense precission and/or a combination of points to be hit. with the former, it takes a lot of training to be able to hit points so precisely. With the latter, not only do you have to hit them, but you have to do it before your opponents reacts. Pressure point fighting, though existant and real is not at all reliable for self defense. Now, that is not to say that there aren't points that can't be hit. There is a huge bundle of nerves in the jaw. that is part of the reason people get KOed when they are hit there. Larger points like this are perfect for hitting, but I wouldn't base my whole strategy on pressure points. That is the other thing. It's not like you can tap someone and expect them to fall. Possibly. Looking at it from a schientific standpoint, if it can't be measured, then it's probably not real. qi is defined as a bioelectricity, and even the definition of what 'bioelectricity' is is still unclear. Now, from a perspective that qi is merely breath, then yes, it's very real.

I've never seen a class division. Below are the IKF rules, which I fight under: When Elbow Strikes are allowed to the head, IKF Approved or Endorsed Elbow Pads are MANDATORY. Otherwise, bouts with elbow strikes to the body do not require elbow pads. Fighters may strike with Punches, Kicks, Knees and SOMETIMES ELBOWS; Strikes with elbows and knees are allowed. However, some State Athletic Commissions may not allow knees to the head or elbows at all. Under these circumstances, these Muay Thai Bouts will be called "MODIFIED MUAY THAI". To be a Muay Thai bout at all, there must be at least Knee Strikes to the body. Please CONFIRM with the event Matchmaker what will be ALLOWED in your bout. Knees to the Head, Elbows, etc. KICKS (shin or foot) & KNEES are allowed to BOTH legs (not the knees) of each fighter. KICKS may strike body and head as well. KNEES may strike to the Legs, Body and Head. However, as noted above. Sometimes Knees to the HEAD will not be allowed. Please CONFIRM with the event Matchmaker what will be ALLOWED in your bout. Clinching is allowed as long as 1 fighter is ACTIVE WITHIN the clinch. MUAY THAI Throws are LEGAL in IKF Amateur MUAY THAI. NOT HIP THROWS. Fighters are allowed to catch their opponents leg and take 1 step forward. After 1 step, the fighter holding the leg must STRIKE before taking a second step or more. Sweeps (With instep of foot) are not allowed but a fighter may "KICK" his/her opponents supporting leg with the top of their foot or shin, NOT the instep as in a karate style sweep. No strikes are allowed to the groin or joints of the leg. In TRUE Muay Thai as with these rules, FLASH KNOCKDOWNS where the knocked down fighter rises up immediatly after being knocked down are NOT COUNTED AS A KNOCKDOWN OR STANDING 8 COUNT. Direct (Side Kick Style) kicks to the front of a fighters legs Are NOT ALLOWED. Kicks (shin or foot) may strike the inside and outside of each fighters legs. This applies in general - there is no class division. I've only seen class divisions in amateur san shou and in amateur boxing.

right, but chasing limbs is not an advisable thing. Why? because you can pick up on the motion too late. When you do that, you will be hit. Take a good jab, for example. the arm stays in line and the elbow stays down. There is no elbow rotation until the moment just before impact. You are already in reaction mode, and by watching the limb, you are possibly slowing your reaction. In addition, you may lose sight of other weapons coming at you. You focus on the jab - and it was a fake. Instead, you you eat a roundhouse kick that you never saw coming...

whoa... I'd like to read that. Have you seen it?