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Hi, I just have a question about MMAs, what exactly is the main difference between the Ken Shamrock's style of submission wrestling and BJJ/GJJ? Thanks.

I'm goingto respectfully disagree Ted T. If you have been trained from a good teacher, you can start using some of the basic aspects of the form for combat soon after you learn them. As far as mastery goes, that can take many years to a lifetime to learn. As far as them fighting other Tai Chi guys, If one has learned Tai Chi well it can be used to successfully defend one against any martial art effectively. Usually the one with the most skill and who is having the better day will come out on top. I hope I never have to use Tai Chi in self defence but if I did, I am confident that I could hold my own with a person of the same skill level from any of the other martial arts. Glad to hear it, I respect Tai Chi very much especially Chen style Tai Chi.

Li Shuwen the most famous Baji Quan master in history and Wu Zhong the creater of Baji Quan.

Tekken series and VF 4.

Baji Quan for me.

Thanks for your help, since it's similiar to Xingyi so I take that it's an internal style, does it has any relationship to the Xinyi Ba in the Shaolin system? I heard that Xingyi Liuhe Quan is one of the few Chinese style that's able to match Baji Quan in close quarter combat and some of the moves really looks the same, is that true?

Have anyone know if there's a Xinyi Liuhe Quan school in Canada or US? I heard that it's a martial art of the Chinese muslim and even in China the muslim raely ever teach this art to non-Chinese muslims.

In terms of Tai Chi I think only the Chen style is taught as martial art today and I think only the Chen style is effectie enough as a fighting art, people practice the Yang and Wu style only to improve their health. I have never ever seen anyone could use Bagua effective in a real fight, I personally doubt it's fighting ability but never the less it's still a great art other than for fighting. Xingyi is quite different from other internal art it's that it's pretty "hard" for an internal style. Xingyi is definitely an effective fighting style and I am sure that a Xingyi student will do will on the street if he has enough training.

I study Baji Quan, one of the most violent and effective Chinese martial art out there today. Baji Quan characterized by being practical, powerful, very fierce and ruthless. Its external appearance is rather simplistic while the usage of internal body mechanics is quite sophisticated.

What's wrong with JJJ, why is that nobody like it?

I do believe they still teach this style but not really sure who and where. Mostly likely you will only find them in China.

di shu quan Thanks man. Check this out. "Ditang Quan, or ground tumbling, is said have been developed during the Southern Song dynasty (1129-1279). It was first practiced in the Shandong province from where it spread to other parts of the country over the centuries. Ditang Quan is heavily influenced by drunken boxing and monkey boxing, from which it has absorbed their tumbles, falls, turns, somersaults and aerial acrobatics, developing a routine of delicate moves and actions. Attacking blows are a major feature of this style. The most distinctive aspect of this style however, is how the attacking blows are hidden in the movements of tumbling, falling, turning and somersaulting. It goes even as far as using tumbles and falls to confuse and mislead the opponent into traps where the Ditang fighter can then launch his own attack, making this a surprising and deadly style. In terms of performances, it is very typical for a Ditang Quan performer to execute in quick succession a series of dangerous moves. On a practical level, Ditang Quan consists of intense fist play with attacks and defenses ingeniously mixed together with difficult, delicate and beautiful actions. "

I welcome you Akira, finally a Baji Quan brother.

Man just saw a video on Hung Gar and their training is really hard especially on the horse stance. Do you Hung Gar guys know master Yu Zhiwei (not sure about his English name) who used to teach in New York? I saw him testing his student;s horse stand by standing on their legs...man..

Does anybody know this style? Is there any good site you can give me? Thanks

there aren't a whole lot of thai boxers who do compete in san shou at this time. their biggest appearances are in various kickboxing rule (american, international, thai) competitions and in MMA. It wouldn't be a huge crossover for a thaiboxer though, i'd imagine - just stylistic difference - preference to sidekick over the teep, the distance kept in the clinch, etc. these differences are there for strategic resaons, but can be adapted to. For the pro cma guys, another thing to keep in mind about san shou is that not all of the fighters have trained in strictly traditional cma. some trained at camps geared only towards san shou. others have cross trained in other styles. some, while being pure cma, cross train with guys at the san shou camps. Yeah you are right, I think Liu Hailong trained in Tae Kwon Do.

those are good points. In response to the first, going to the ground DID happen. The japanese recognized that, and realized that when it did happen, they needed to be able to get up efficiently, that way they would not get stabbed, trampled, etc. The only way to learn this is via groundwork. My guess is that that is why they added it. The chinese have thought (from what I've heard, anyway) that fighing on the ground is considered a disgrace. If this is true, that would be why you see such a lack of it in their styles. There is at least one ground oriented chinese style though - fukien dog boxing. As for noat wanting to go to the ground in real life against multiple attackers, there are alot of factors there. 1. you may not have a choice. if you do go down, you need to know how to get back up. 2. people stumble and fall, as you said. it's not only untrained people though, as there are obtacles, wet floors, etc. you can slip on and trip over. in addition, if you opponent is untrained and falls into you, you are now in a clinch - grappling range. It may or may not go down from there 3. ALOT of people wrestled in high school - at least in the US. why would you want to take the chance of running into someone who may have some type of ground training? Sevenstar, which one is the fukien dog boxing, "Di Tang Quan" or is it "Di Shu Quan"?

Khmer boxing? I guess it's something like Muay Thai.

Oh this is pretty much a Chinese things because in most Chinese martial arts there are more parries than blocks. To me block and attack are 2 actions while parry and attack can be one action and it saves a lot more time. Maybe you know a lot more blocks than I do and I do believe there are some very effective block but my blocking knowledge is very litmited. Baji Quan has little or no blocks, we tend to shoot into close range and finish the fight ASAP even if we have to take a few hit.

In my personal view parry is much more useful than blocks.

Deep rooted stance are very dangerous during sparring or in a real fight, basically it's as if you are inviting your opponent to kick you right in the face. Most of the early Kung Fu loses to Muay Thai is because those Kung Fu fighters tend to fight using deep stance and got themselves face full of Muay Thai kicks.

Aikido is pretty much useless in a real fight unless you study it for like 10 years. Aikido in my view is very much than Kung Fu which takes a longer time master than those martial arts like Karate or TKD.

Hi, I have a question that I wish to ask you Grappling people, why is that all Chinese martial arts lack ground work and submission? Some Chinese martial art like Shuai Jiao have great throws and grappling skills but it lacks solid ground work like Judo and JJ, is there a reason why the Chinese overlook the ground submission part?

Hey Ali What is "Sao Choy" really like, is it a long range or a close range move? I was just wondering if it has a longer range than my Center Gate Elbow? If "Sao Choy" is a haymaker of some sort then I think Center Gate Elbow will stand no chance against it but rather only Outer Gate Elbow can match it's power.

I think monkey is a really great style but seriously I have never seen it in real sparring actions, how does it really works and is it really effective?