This is a great topic I have ejoyed reading everyones replys. These are the two programs I teach at my school. C.T.E. Kickboxing Goods: 1.,Focuses on strikes, kicks and some clinch fighting 2.,Great workout Lacking: 1.,Takedowns 2.,Grappling So I believe Kickboxing is wonderful but I admit it is incomplete C.T.E. Jujitsu of Mixed Arts Goods: 1.,Focuses on all aspects of a fight from stand up to grappling 2.,Freestyle type of training allows each individual to grow differently according to their abilitys and perferd methods Lacking: 1., More grappling is needed (this is currently being worked on) 2., I do not feel it lacks to much and I encoured any and all my students to speak up if they feel something might benifit the program Once again this was a great topic.