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Only other thing I can add here is that the one thing I got with Kyokushin that I personally did not get with other styles, was the ability (and it has to be built up) to push through pain and the want to give up. The body wants to fail, but the mind says "KEEP GOING!!!". Its a real "the mind controls reality" kind of outlook. I have carried this through with me into many other areas of life now, and would not trade it for quids! I just honestly hope that if you do pursue this cross-training, you do manage to find a good, friendly and experiecned Kyokushin dojo. I think you may find yourself really enjoying it Best wishes.

12 Nov 2012. -3 hours Wakeboarding today (and a perfect day for it!). -Strech up and down. Just about to tackle (im exhausted from earlier efforts so its going to be pretty meek this evening...: -Drill roundhouse kicks, -10 min interval running on treadmill, -Light abs routine, -Strech down.

Solid.

11 Nov 2012 -Push-pull training, with 10kg weights (30min). -Pull ups to exhaustion. -Stretching. -Drilled body and head roundhouse (Cudan/Jodan Mawashi Geri) on kcik-shield with partner.

10 Nov 2012 -Kettlebell (20kg) sets: -1min clean and jerk each arm; -1min leg-passes; -1min swings (both hands); -1min goblet squats; -Dumbell (12.5kg) sets: -1min flys; -30sec tricep pull-backs eacharm. -10 min running intervals on treadmill. -Abs routine (situps, crunches, bicycles, leg raises etc), 5 min. -10 min running intervals on treadmill (again). -Abs routine again (same). -Sidekicks for endurance, as many in 2 min for each leg. -Roundhouse for endurance, as many in 1 min for each leg. -Stretchdown.

9 Nov 2012 -120 min Kyokushin class (body conditioning and fight training).

Backing up Kuma's statements - yes, most are only sempai until reaching 3rd dan, at which point you become a sensei. Yes - there are a lot of differences (I found this out first hand when i tried to do Shotokan kata), but it should not be too difficult. And hey - getting a bit of experience "outside the box" so to speak is never a bad thing! Ive trained Fillipino MA (Presas Modern Arnis) fo years now in conjunction with my kyokushin training, and they have done nothing but compliment one another! I say go for it!

7 Nov 2012 30 min volleyball game (well 26 min, but who's counting?). Soon to head off to a 120min Kyokushin Fitness class.

6 Nov 2012. -5 min jog (warm up). -Drilled 200 front kicks, all height levels. -2 min jog. -Punching and kicking combinations (5 min). -2 min jog. -Punching combinations (10 min). -2 min jog. -Short abs work (crucnches, V-sit ups, leg raises). -Kicking combinations (10 min). -Stretch down. -Fast walk (2 km). -Hill sprint to exhaustion. -15min straight medium/full-contact sparring with partner.

You're forgetting all the different Organisations that exist since the death of Sosai. And there's varying changes to the context of the syllabus depending on who heads that particular organisation. Also regarding evolving, you forgot Ashihara karate, Enshin Karate, Daiko Juku, Japanese Kickboxing amongst others. Hence my thread on this forum and K4L asking are Kyokushin Karateka ashamed of the evolved versions of Kyokushin. OSU I dont think I forget all of the IKO's (IKO1, 2, 3... infinity). These were actually explicitly what I was thinking about when I said "I know there are quite a few sections who dont want to shift and try to keep to Oyama Sosai's original teachings - as they believe they were taught." i dont really like to discuss the politics of Kyokushin post-Sosai, as there are quite a few heirs to the thone in their own right, and all of us seem to have allegiance to one or another in particular. I didnt include, or think of Ashihara, Enshin, Daiko or Seidokaikan in my discussions. I would be of the opinion that they are no longer Kyokushin - now being their own brand/style, and so did not incldue in my original post. Much like Kyokushin evolved from other styles, these are styles evolving out of Kyokushin. Osu.

Solid post. Thank you. I believe that deep stances definitely have their place. Particularly in grappling and when executing judo-like throws and takedowns.

4 Nov 2012 - Carried ~1 tonne pine logs uphill 100 metres. - Machete work (also on pine) for approx 1 hour. - Got carried away, katana tameshigiri for approx 30 min. - Heavy bag work (10 min). - Abs workout (10 min). - 200 various kicks to finish.

I think this can be beneficial. After some time off training (5 years), I went back to my Hombu dojo to pick back up on karate. Unfortunately a lot of the more basic techncal stuff was lacking, and so I decided to go back into the general (Kyu grade) classes to re-learn my basics and markedly increased my general fitness. This in itself allowed me to get up to scratch much quicker then just attending the advanced classes, and less time spend where I "slowed others down". Osu.

I think that depending on where you go, you can see all three in Kyokushin. I have seen sections that refused to go with chnage and have unortunately dissolved. In the same (reluctance?) to change, I know there are quite a few sections who dont want to shift and try to keep to Oyama Sosai's original teachings - as they believe they were taught. Conversely, I currently train with an evolving sections of Kyokushin, which has implemented seperate classes for Kobudo (Goju derived) and general fitness (boot camps). This has both its ups and downs - for example, I was talking to one of the higher kyu grades not long ago and I remarked that Kyokushin only ever had one Bo Staff kata, to which he replied, no it doesn't, it has lots (I think that he are under the impression that the Kobudo is all Kyokushin based. However, I find myself learning more and more techniques that are easily adaptable to my everyday situations through this eveolution. Is it still Kyokushin as Oyama taught it?... Yes. Are there other elements being taught?... Yes. Does this make it a bad thing?... No, not IMO. One thing I will note though, is that I think a lot of people tend to think of Kyokushin as being based totally in tournament knock-down fighting, which is simply not the case. I have been taught all the bunkai for all of the kata we learn, and we do rigorous self defense sessions on top of full-contact training. I alsop think that (and some Kyokushin practitions will disagree with me) Oyama had intended for Kyokushin to be an evolving style. Thats how he came up with it afterall - by taking what he thought were the more important bits fro the styles he had previously trained in and putting them into a single "style"...

2 Nov 2012 - Pull ups, 3 sets to exhaustion. - Abs 2 sets, including: crunches, sit ups (rocky style with punches), leg raises and reverse plank. - Splits stretching. - Drilled combinations (20min). #Gedan Mawashi, Oi Tsuki, Gyaku Tsuki, Jodan Mawashi. #Oi Tsuki, Gysaku Tsuki, Mae Geri, Uchi Mawashi Kakato Geri. #Oi Tsuki, Gyaku Tsuki, Kage Tsuki, Shita Tsuki. - Drilled Uchi Mata (5min). - Kata: Yantsu and Seichin. - Shadow boxing (10min). - Stretch warm down.

There is already lower level MMA female fights here in Australia.

1 Nov 2012 - 6km cycle including hill sprints. - 140 pushups divided into multiple sets (which included two competition sets with a training partner to see who could pop out the most in one go). - Quick Abs routine. - Kicking for cardio and stretchnign purposes after the cycle (approx 100 kicks).

Agreed. I train all, but for the most part, its to stay in med-short range, and damage the opponent so that two things are possible: 1) You can enter into submission tactics to subdue, or, 2) You can make a viable escape. In reality, simply disengaging from a grab and trying to make a get away may not be an appropriate option. There may (as MasterPain suggested) be other people involved, there may be a need to subdue the other person, or the attacker may simply be stronger and faster than you, in which case - all disengaging is going to do is give them a chance to place themselves in another offensive position.

17 Oct 2012 -Supersets: Chin ups and squat-kicks to exhaustion. -Stretching, leg flexibility. -Drilled Jodan mawashi/ushiro mawashi combination, 30 min. -Shadow boxing, 10 min. -Trick combinations - swipe through, reverse sweep to 540 kick (i just cant seem to nail the final landing...), and, macaco from squat. 30 min. -Abs/back sets: crunches, reverse toso raise, situps with punches. -stretch down: back, hips and legs.

Agreed. Integrity is something that is continually built up, and can be knocked over in a second. Owning up to, and dealing with my own mistakes has always been difficult, but it has made me into the person I am today - someone who is able to capitalize on mistakes to learn from them.

When Mas Oyama was alive this was a part of Kyokushin (not MMA), but one needed six competition points at full contact level to grade for Shodan (1st degree).

Corey Taylor in the red boiler suit and full face mask Yessss http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Taylor

Absolutely golden

12 Oct 2012 -90 min Kyokushin class. -Pushups pyramid. -Pullups, 3x sets to exhaustion. 15 Oct 2012 -Drilled mae geri (front kick) and punching combinations on heavy bag. -Pulups, 3x sets to exhaustion. -Kihon (drilled basic blocks). 16 Oct 2012 -Arnis with partner, double stick. -Kobudo with partner, bo and katana.

This troubles me. Zen is a term stemming from asian philosophy, but I don't think that Zen and Asian are any longer mutually inclusive. I travel to asia annually, and think from my personal experience, a lot of asia has overtaken the west in seeking material possessions and leaving behind the humbleness of zen. I now train with more people in Australia who are more concerned with seeking self-betterment and understanding of the universe than most of the people I train with in India, Thailand or Japan. Simply a personal observation and personal experience.