White Warlock

To be fair, bjj has adopted what worked in the ring and disregarded or revamped what didn't work, or couldn't be applied, in the ring.

Well Lenny, it is rather well understood that many of the people who get into lots of street/bar fights are ex-wrestlers/boxers. There are those who have studied other systems as well, but looking for that coveted black belt around their waist when they pummel you is not exactly the route to go. Truth is, you really don't know the background of the persons you encounter in the street and therefore you should practice, as well as reasonably possible, for every eventuality.

Well, to toss it on the table again, do recall there are two distinct directions in which tkd is taught. One is traditional, self-defense oriented, in which it's mother system (shotokan) is strongly presented, and the other is sport/Olympics oriented, in which ring/sparring techniques are emphasized. Most of what is witnessed and taught is sport/Olympics-oriented tkd.

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E&k is correct. I just spent 3 hours with my physical therapist discussing the 'problems' associated with martial arts and knee injuries. Specifically, my knees. He's an ex-wrestler at the collegiate level, so his insight is not without merit. Most knee related problems are birthed from improper posture and use of the hips. Incorrect hip placement, a favoring of one side or the other, posing the knees to take the brunt of lateral movement, extended poses in which the tendons are inordinately stretched or kept taut for an extended period of time... these are what cause miniscal damage, acl problems, and other knee-related ailments. A horse with the knees pointing at an angle, but the feet pointing straight ahead tags just about every red flag i presented above. Consider this. Also consider what was known when these stances were created, as opposed to what is known now. They didn't have the technology, the experience, or the test subjects we have now. As well, life spans were much shorter... and thus mistakes in practice less crucial. We live far longer lives now, so focusing on not destroying our bodies early on will virtually ensure we enjoy a happy retirement.

hehe, it's my calling. I'm sorry K25, i left my decoder ring at home, could you clarify... since i can't make heads or toes of what you just posted.

It isn't a pretty picture, but it is a picture often overlooked.

i've had plenty of good and bad. You brought that people who are in it for just the money don't deserve the title of being an instructor. You then emphasized that a 'true' instructor has to teach with all his heart. On one you state all instructors who are in it for just the money shouldn't be called instructors, on the other you state that if someone does not teach with all his heart, he is not a 'true' instructor. When presented together, you are saying that only those who are in it with all their heart are the only ones worthy of being called instructor. And my response was, the vast majority are not in it with all their heart and a very large percentage, likely a majority, are in it just for the money. There are plenty more people instructing the arts for the money than there are people instructing the arts for the content it provides. I can't really prove this, i can only point to all the schools out there providing substandard instruction and charging unreasonable rates. Far more of those than there are quality instructors charging reasonable rates. Also consider that just because someone is good at their art and can teach it effectively, doesn't mean they aren't providing instruction just for the money, paying their bills while they develop themselves... caring little for the students other than to recognize them as financial supporters.

That would make the vast majority of instructors out there... not deserving of the title. Interestingly enough, I think that's the point here.

I woke up this morning and realized it was another day.

Not necessarily. There are styles out there that do not consider such factors, and thus are developed based on an incomplete picture of 'real' encounters. Also there are styles that examine such factors extensively and include training to specifically exploit certain factors, such as reach, speed, weapons, intimidation, etc. A style of fighting can encompass 'all' the things that go into winning a fight, or a large percentage of the variables presented.

Hmm, tough one. Two main issues here: Parent participation - Parents can 'help' you to get these kids in order. As to the child who doesn't want to participate, i would say the parents need to be informed that either the child participates or he's out. But, do remember not to give parents 'too much' leeway here, or they'll end up taking over your class. Distraction - you need to either change the time of the class, block the view so the kids eyes don't wander, play your own music, or use the music being played. It may not be possible to resolve via the first three solutions presnted so you may have to resort to having the kids workout with the 'same' music that is being played in the other class. Music presents a rhythm and if your class rhythm doesn't meet the beat of the music in the background, the kids are going to be confused and distracted very easily. Frankly, i would say that's your #1 problem right now... the distractions. Deal with that before you consider reining in your little varmints. In order for those kids to 'focus' on you, you need to be the 'loudest,' most 'vibrant' activity thier little eyes and ears capture.

13 years ago, i had this musclebound guy visit our club. After about 30 minutes of workout he asked, quite bluntly, what use were all these studies when they wouldn't work on him. I was amused and asked him what types of things he would do. We had a friendly chat and then i told him i wasn't going to hurt him, but to try each of those things he had communicated. In every instance, he ended up landing hard on the mat, with me standing or kneeling over him. Without training, strength is a liability, for it interferes with your common sense. Instead of leveraging, one attempts to present force. Instead of exploiting joints, one goes for muscle. Instead of quick strikes to vital targets, one attempts power strikes to obvious targets. With training, strength 'can' still be a liability, in that a person's build can interfere with some of their mobility and make them more vulnerable to certain types of attacks, or make them too slow to deliver a strike/submission. But more than those, it can interfere with the learning process... in that strength is employed to complete an action, rather than technique. Those with ample strength have a harder time learning the more subtle aspects of the arts.

ballet Hey, why not! It worked for Van Damme, right?

Many students don't put faith in their instructors precisely BECAUSE instructors are not 'just' trying to help us improve. There are many who are doing it 'just' for the money and could care less about their students... especially if they don't pay. There is no drama to this scene. People are people, regardless of whether they are students or instructors. One cannot dismiss human failings merely because of belt rank.

As well as i know, the claim of him killing someone was never substantiated. Indeed, many of his claims have never been substantiated.

It's rather obvious, looking at their application, that they will be looking for 'interesting' people, rather than excellent martial artists. They will be presenting characters, personalities, good looks, since the goal is to boost ratings, not to provide great fights. By the age window, i do think they are aiming for beginners in the arts, not excellent martial artists... but then again that's the age when most people find a need to 'prove' themselves. Anyway, i won't be watching this garbage.

Well, no... i said he inspired "some people to join the arts." Someone joining the arts is a far cry from someone who is a martial artist. And is he 'only' an entertainer? You see, if you claim he is 'more' than an entertainer, than his movies end up communicating 'more' than entertainment. In this, the morality 'does' play a big part on all of this. The message presented by an idol is just as important as the means by which a message is presented. I.e., do what i say, don't do what i do... just isn't good enough. Well, it needs to be noted the first part, which is nobody is a good/great martial artist when they seek out the arts, they are wannabes. It is only through diligent practice and study under great tutelage that they become great artists. Regardless, we're coming back to the thing i said earlier. I don't believe there are many people who were inspired to seek out the arts due to Bruce Lee, and which later became great martial artists. Dan Inosanto, for instance, was already an accomplished martial artist before he studied 'with' Bruce Lee, as were many others. I guess we're going to disagree. I think the 'evolution' of the arts is a great thing, not the propagation of it. I don't think it's good that 'more' people know how to fight. I think that's bad, especially when the 'more' don't happen to appreciate life, respect individuals, or show the moral qualities that should be core requirements to obtaining a BB. In truth, Bruce Lee gets credit for many things he is not deserving of credit for. As to what he deserves credit for, it does become a problem ascertaining because of all the credit he is given burying whatever it is he truly deserves credit for. But, if we wish to split hairs, i suppose we can give him credit for doing some martial arts onscreen and getting a lot of kiddies all excited about the stuff so they go home, tape a few sticks together, and crack their skulls open.

The screaming like a maniac wouldn't intimidate me... although if someone were to charge at me like that i may end up falling on the floor laughing. As to the rest of it, their attacks were not good. With the tremendous amount of wasted energy, the rather poor utilization of their weapons, the single-mindedness of their techniques, and the exhausting yelling they do that will sap their strength in no time, i just can't figure how this sort of activity could be considered anything other than maybe aggression training.

well, casting means you'll walk around with this thing on you face for a month or so. Operation for noses are outpatient services nowadays, but they'll have to put you under. If you've been under anaesthetics before, then no biggie... but if you haven't, there's always the risk you would be allergic to the anaesthetic or have some as of yet undiagnosed heart problem and *poof*. These sort of questions should be directed to your doctor. Some additional questions you might pose are: if the fracture is going to cause regular hemmorhaging, if it impedes the nasal passages, are there any protuding bone fragments or is the cartilage exposed (broken through skin), are there any other nose/sinus problems noted that should be addressed (polyps, etc), and if the injury is mostly cosmetic... whether it is unseemly.

nothing to add...

and fight like idiots.

Well, as i stated in an earlier post, on another thread, nothing he said was actually new... it was merely rehashed and presented to an ignorant audience as if it were his ideas.

on that note, i have no idea. I gather it would have to do with what they 'perceive' to be traditional.

There is a conflict in information on this Menjo. There are associations utilizing the name of chung do kwan, but not necessarily following the traditional stance of such. As history goes, chung do kwan was the initial school of tang soo do. It became the largest and most known of schools in Korea. Later, all variations merged to be presented as tae kwon do, with tang soo do still holding its individuality as a more traditional form of instruction. Chung do kwan tae kwon do is, traditionally, traditional (tsd)... whilst tkd, presented mainstream, is more of the sport/Olympic variety. So, when a school advertises as chung do kwan tkd, they are inferring that they are traditional, as opposed to sport/olympic oriented. But, like i said, there are associations out there branding the name of chung do kwan and not being traditional, nor advocating traditional instruction. This is especially obvious when you note they advertise their 'sport' competitions and Olympic training programs.