White Warlock

Not necessarily. When i get angry, i'm still full capable of putting everything i know into motion. The only real differences are that i am more aggressive and more foolhardy. That doesn't cause me to forfeit the confrontation. My statement about dancing was in direct reference to how Lennox Lewis fights. He adopted much of Muhammed Ali's style, intentionally or unintentionally. The point i made was that dancing may keep you mobile, but as soon as you take exit from a shot, you telegraph the opening a grappler will exploit. In any event, my definition of dancing is not your definition. When i'm referring to dancing, i'm not talking about moving around with my feet a lot as opposed to standing in a single place... or in a semi-rigid stance. When i'm talking about dancing, I'm referring to moving about the opponent and taking pot-shots until the knockout opportunities present themselves as opposed to going full bore... as an amateur would do on his first few boxing bouts. Boxers get deprogrammed out of a good habit. Present-day boxing matches are designed to present an extended display, not a single moment of fury. The problem is, a single moment of fury is what a 'real' confrontation is like. UFC better represents that sort of thing than a boxing match does. Err... shoot, not shot. A poorly implemented shoot to the legs you mean. As stated earlier, there are a multitude of ways a grappler can take you down, most of which are straight-on body throws, not leg takedowns. Yet, even if a leg-takedown were to be attempted, this so-called well timed elbow just won't have an opportunity for making much of an impact... nor will the skull truly complain about the bang on the top from such a distorted angle. Indeed, attempting to do this elbow attack is an all or nothing venture. You succeed in knocking him out, great. Unlikely, but great. However, if you don't, because you committed yourself to this elbow strike, you clearly didn't attempt to sprawl or counter the attempted takedown. Thus, you're going down... hard. Last comment about these leg-takedowns. When people play, they are slow with a takedown. In wrestling, real good wrestling, a shoot to the legs is lightning quick in application. My opponents are flying backwards in the air before they even realized what i did. One moment i was in front of them, the next they're staring at the ceiling. This is not me bragging, for i am not even remotely the greatest at shooting. I've experienced people who can shoot so quick they cause me to be the one staring at the ceiling, wondering what happened. Well, just to point out... and i'm sure there are many in this site that can attest to this, i am not a UFC fan, nor am i solely a grappler. I also see no need to pigeon hole everyone that disagrees with some of your arguments. Well, a pure grappler possibly, but as you should well know... the percentage of 'purist' practitioners has decreased significantly over the last decade. There you are, you're also not a purist striker...

another good post Sauzin. you're on a roll.

well, actually, it's both.

good post Sauzin

Okay, i have been struck by drunk drivers on the road many times. Eleven times, in fact. The worst situation was in 1983 while i was on motorbike riding in the bicycle lane just to be safe, as it was a two-way single lane road, and two drunk drivers took up both lanes as they raced their way to college. I was struck, dragged forty feet, and run over. The two drunkards got out of their cars and got into an argument about having bumped each other's cars and about the damage my body had done to the front of one of the cars. In the meantime, i lay on the floor bleeding and unconscious, possibly dead for all they cared. I have little sympathy for the arguments presented that being inebriated is all in good fun. It isn't. It hampers judgement and causes people to do dumb things... repeatedly. If you drink, drink responsibly. If you can't do that, don't drink. And definitely do not drink and say you're responsible when you clearly are not. Stepping behind the wheel, starting a fight, insulting someone, using alcohol as an excuse to do and say things that you would normally not say.... all of this is inexcuseable. I used to drink, and have gotten drunk on many an occasion in the past. But one thing i never did was behave in ways that i would not normally behave as. Alcohol was never an excuse for me to say or do things, it was merely an intoxicating drink. It was fun, i enjoyed it, but i also recognized what others did and how they just didn't have the 'honesty' to present their true selves without getting blasted and blaming their inappropriateness on the bottle. Okay, that said... i don't have an issue with people drinking. I have an issue with people.

hehe, that was what i was going to mention. pee !!!!

What's a belt level?

For a period of time i studied at the Chula Vista Lion's Den, and prior to that i studied with a BB in Brazilian jujutsu. I found myself with ample opportunity to do many nasty things, but that was not the goal, and instead i played their games and fared quite well, slipping in and out of the guard, switching positions, getting back on my feet repeatedly, etc. However, had i done some of the other things i would 'normally' have done in a life/death encounter, i strongly feel i would have done far better than quite well. I didn't see it in them what i knew i possessed. They were there for sport, i practice to survive that one ultimate moment where all these skills will ultimately save my life... by a hair.

Your assumptions of fair and not fair make no sense. If your life is on the line, what does 'fair' have to do with it? Are you going to forfeit your life because you want to give the guy who intends to kill you a fighting chance?

Dancing against a grappler is asking for a takedown. The means for a striker to have any chance against a grappler, is to get busy and get often. If a grappler cannot play your game, then stop sparring... and just do as much damage as possible in as short a time as possible. The actions of a boxer are for a boxing ring, with rules to define just how they can and cannot fight. I boxed, i wrestled, i did a few other things. Rules hamper a person's ability to do 'everything' they can do... but they also define how they fight. I learned early on that rules actually 'trained' me to not do certain things, so that when i stepped out of the ring and back into a different scene, i had developed bad habits. Habits of ettiquette. There is no ettiquette in the street. There is a 'little' ettiquette in the UFC. What you will not find in the UFC are the rules that Lenox Lewis has become accustomed to. What boxers have already encountered in the UFC is that they end up on the ground, and end up getting submitted.

umm...

Well, to clarify one thing... the living national treasure is not an ego thing, so it would have nothing to do with him being humble. It is a status presented by the government for those who maintain the crafts of Japan. This status comes with government subsidies and, of course, special recognition. But, again, it was incorrect information about Hatsumi presented on a website that i had perused and associated with the above-mentioned award.

hmm, clear your temp files and reload. seems your download was interrupted. trying to reload without first removing from the temp file won't work, as it will recognize the file has already been downloaded.

Correct. And consider this... seasoned grapplers get taken down by single-leg takedowns. Indeed, it's one of the more common takedowns for grapplers to do against other grapplers. Now... if a grappler has a problem with single-leg takedowns, how do you think those not specifically trained and not regularly practicing in full resistance is going to be able to do? Exactly...

lol, what i don't know about, i listen... or i research.

Not necessarily. In fiji, u have to fear for your 'life,' not merely fear for yourself. the problem comes about where you have to present to the authorities your justification for committing the action of taking a life. If you cannot effectively present that your life was in danger, or that you perceived your life to be in danger, then you will be incarcerated.

Well, first time i noticed this thread. Of the posts, i find Igm's closest to the thought, but i take it a different route. In a similar thread, i stated i am me and that what i do does not define me. I am not a martial artist, a martial arts practitioner, a writer, journalist, artist, computer tech, or any of the other things i 'do.' I do things, and they are things i do, but they do not define who i am, nor am i comfortable with labels... for they are simple means to simplify. Stereotyping that many of us have 'accepted,' yet we should not. Someone should no more define themselves as a martial artist than anything else. Such labels are devised by laymen as a means to quantify a group of people performing, or practicing, one or more things. The martial arts varies substantially. It does so because it is both science and art. A study of anatomy, of physics, mechanics, of psychology and of many other dynamics. It is this collage of studies that frames these studies as an art. With each creation, we have a different interpretation, a different presentation. Each style is unique, and each one is created by an individual. Some creations are timeless, while others are modified through the hands of many others practicing such arts. Those who work with these arts, study them, memorize them... cannot possibly be considered artists. For they are not creating, but repeating. It is only through personal interpretation that one presents art. Yet, with all that.. a true artist does not call himself an artist. Merely a man, or woman, of passion.

Ugh The individual can define everything. From what he studies to how he conditions. So, in truth, all things do not matter, as long as the individual strives for excellence within himself. If he does, he will pursue all things that will eventually cause him to reach that excellence, be it one style, or many. As to what style beats what, that is the oldest and most annoying debate on the dinner table. It is not the style, but the approach. And while some styles have a better approach than others, it is often the case that the means by which that style is taught, as well as the intensity and the focus, which determines whether a particular style... as presented... is better than another style... as presented. But, i'm sure we can all agree that one school of boxing can completely dominate another school of boxing, merely for the manner in which they train, and the material for which they focus on.

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I refer, once again, to the post i made about the mountains. As to what it has to do with wing chun, legend states it was one of the founding locations of the art, based on long fist. Unfortunately, there is no clear means to verify such and the issue is hotly contested.

It is true that time measured in years has been the fallacy of these arguments.

If i can jump in again. The fact is, techniques are 'applications' of principles. However, if you study the techniques, and fail to grasp the principles behind said techniques, then you are rigid, inflexible, in your application of whatever art you purport to study. Confrontations are never the same, nor are circumstances going to be presented that mimic the training associated with the study of techniques. Thus, in most respects, techniques as standalone are essentially useless. Now i gather much of the debate here is on semantics... hope the above clears some of this up.

I brought it up, and i stated incorrectly. Apologies. In my efforts to present the information, i made an erroneous connection based on false statements by one site. In actuality, he was awarded the International Culture Award, from the Japanese government. http://www.bujinkansf.org/hatsumi/award.htm He was also honored by the Pope, as previously mentioned. In truth, this one perplexes me, but here it is: http://www.winjutsu.com/papal-award.htm

http://www.integralcombat.ca/sumo.mpeg

You're entitled to your opinion, however wrong it may be.