There is an ancient Indian art all about pressure points, it's banned in most countries. However you can go learn it in southern india, but it takes several years training to get good. I was honoured to have an artist demonstrate the art on me in this country (dont tell anyone he'll get arrested)...anyways - now i pine to learn it. Anyone seen Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon? when Jade Fox parallyses the security gaurd where he is, untill li mu bai sorts him out? This is exactly what this art teaches, he parralysed my arm for 15 seconds...I literally couldnt move it untill he fixed it. And he showed me a combination , where if you were to normally press one wouldnt feel pain, if you press whilst pressing the index finger you'll scream in pain. Sigh....how i wish to go to S.India .. [ This Message was edited by: Jiggy9 on 2001-11-12 08:44 ]