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Hello, We removed a post in error from this thread. It is quoted below. I apologize for the confusion. Thanks. see, ur assuming that traditional schools have martial arts that wont work well; if they dont work, they have been handed down wrong; Martial Arts work. Martial arts that dont work were passed to students that didnt train how they needed to, and paid attention to stuff that wasnt important. something that is wrong with the way you posted ur topic is that you cannot define what is a "natural response" to agression(punch, kick, etc). (Yi Quan is the ONLY Martial art I've seen that trains for natural response of the body- it doesnt have forms) if what you say is correct, then a boxer is trying to fit his fist style to whatever may arise for him, using footwork that is trained, punches that are trained, combinations that are trained,etc. And training for groundfighting as any other martial art would be the wrong way for being prepared to defend urself. for example, Karate and kung fu traditionally used to teach about groundfighting AND using weapons that were advanced at the time. however, Samurai did teach against using rifles because they didnt see the "art"(if u may) in killing someone just by firing a gun, which u dont have to have much practice in after u learn how to take aim well. --and really, if everyone used guns, and today, a lot of people do, what point is there to learning martial arts??-- As to groundfighting, for self defense reasons, most teachers didnt teach as part of their MA because they thought that being on the ground for long periods with an attacker meant that someone would end the fight for either one of them; others thought that getting out of the ground position was just common sense and not something to take time explaining. gun control is not a martial art- knowing about guns and how to take aim is not part of a curriculum because someone who doesnt know anything, or doesnt have any strength in particular can in fact shoot a gun and kill the World's strongest. There are BAD schools that teach their version of "traditional martial arts" and the students suck because they are taught in a wrong way. Others forgot about stuff that should have been taught. But dont tell me that EVERY traditional martial art is defective and forces stuff too much because it isnt so; it just didnt work for YOU.

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