
SevenStar
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How Much Time Do You Spend Training?
SevenStar replied to mikaveli's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I train 12 - 15 hours per week. -
having it in the system is one thing. training it on a regular basis is quite another. I think that is where the issue actually resides.
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I don't see a problem with dropping back in rank 1. there are things within this style that you may not have learned yet that are required for their shodan rank - at their school. 2. it may take much more to achieve it in their system. Whenever you step into a new school you are to empty your cup and learn what they are teaching you. In the end, it's only a belt. I wouldn't worry about it, as that's not what should be important to you.
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but you can't practice it live - that's the problem. My original thai coach had some traditional thai training. I know a thai elbow form, traditional thai applications, etc. We train them in class on occasion, as my buddy - the other instructor (there are three of us) - loves the traditional stuff. We can't practice it full speed though, and coincidentally, none of us have ever used any of it in fights.
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Bas Rutten practises Kata yeah, but I'm willing to bet he's the only one... and I'm curious as to how much of his training actually comprises of it. My guess is not much - he probably subs it for shadowboxing or interval anaerobic training. there are some lesser known TMA who compete, like sami berik who likely trains forms. Once again though, I bet he spends more time on application.
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I dunno how signficant those differences really are. there was recently an incdient in which a thai boxer chased three men out of his home who broke in, assaulted his mother and tried to rob him. his injuries were minor, AND the three men were armed. Is that what he was training for? No, but his training served him well, obviously. A sport fighter will train to endure that long number of rounds his fight will last, but not unlike the TMA, he wants to end it as fast as possible. The difference is that he recognizes that that is not always possible. your last comment about target areas doesn't really apply to MMA, and they have the same issues with fight duration at times. In Pride, you can kick downed opponents. there are really only a few areas that are off limits to strike. The issue is that you have two highly trained guys fighting eachother. in the street, that most likely will not be the case.
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I agree to some extent. When I first went into Karate in 1964 you were expected to train very hard. By the 1980's there came many schools and easier training systems. Our school was heavily effected by these "easy training systems", in terms of student numbers. Only the geniune hard core students stayed on. People either dropped out or went for the easy way to a dan grade by joining a McDojo. It saddens me to see such a noble art being destroyed by lazy money grabbing "persons". In the 1960's Karate, in our country, had a reputation of being a fiercely tough martial art. Now the general public views Karate through Hollywood eyes. They see a high kicking Jumpin Jehosaphat punched out by a one hit boxing wonder. But all is not lost. There are still true hardcore practitioners out there that train like hell, like they used to. One of the reasons I stopped teaching years ago apart from the logistics of it, was because people would come into the dojo and soon leave because it was too hard. The western mind is lazy. They want a fast way to the riches of fighting and/or fitness. This can be clearly seen by the success of * exercise equipment sold in informercials. "Get a ripped body in only 5 minutes per day". Soon I expect Guthry Renker to be advertising "Be a Black Belt in 5 minutes a day and become a karate killer". Still, I cannot change the world, but I can change myself. didn't american kickboxing start because they thought that karate was too soft? I agree that the typical western mind is lazy, and I think properly trained, karate is awesome. One of the best MA I've ever seen is my friend/former coach, but he was born, raised and trained in japan. I think karate in America was really just a fad - something new that people had not seen. before karate, it was kung fu, and before that, judo. After karate came the ninja craze. Since you have people that are affected by fads - people that flock to what's hot, you will definitely have a rise of McDojos, as that is essentially what the majority of people want.
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if you are training for power, what is key is training your neuromuscular system to contract harder - this harder contraction naturally produces more power. One way do do this is maximal poundages with few reps and few sets. Never lift until failure. As for exercises, I would recommend olympic and other compound movements - cleans, deads, squats, bench, etc. I would also add pullups and plyos twice a week.
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Could you beat a street fighter?
SevenStar replied to STR33T GUY's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
I have. actually, that doesn't matter... de la hoya can punch faster than tyson - who do you think would win? I have. the thing is people take "streetfighter" to mean 'couch potato who does nothing, but likes to fight' The guys that I know who did alot of fighting were very athletic - played ball, lifted weights, etc - they just loved trouble. the same way that a lesser skilled tennis player beats a more skilled one. The sun even shines on a dog's behind some days... some people think they are, but are not. -
Could you beat a street fighter?
SevenStar replied to STR33T GUY's topic in General Martial Arts Discussion
there is an element of truth to it - experience counts for alot...although I think a year is a bit of an exaggeration. take two fighters who have trained the same length of time, in the same school. The only difference is that one has had ring fights and the other has not - typically, the one who has the ring experience will be the overall better fighter. he's used to the pressure, dealing with someone trying to tear his head off, coping with adrenaline, etc. The person with street fights under their belt has the same advantage over a person who has had none. -
I'm actually a fan of his. I have "the boxer's guide to performance enhancement" I post on his message forums as well.
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those same coaches also advocate that their boxers lift weights...all of these exercises are just parts of a bigger picture.
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actually, I think that supersetting weight bearing exercises and plyos is a good idea.
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I apologize that you were offended by my comments. Physics, biology, statistics, chemistry, computers - this is what I know. MA - that I'm new at. This is what happens when engineers start hobbies. Let's just take 100 of these. (Since I tried 40 and my legs were on fire after that, so 500 seems like an enormous number right now.) It should be apparent that if you do 100 in 400 seconds, that's a big difference than doing 100 of the same quality in 100 seconds. The second version will generate and develop more power than the first. The post I was responding to said that this exercise won't generate power. I disagree. The problem when you start dealing in very large numbers is that most people will settle into a rythm that is less than maximum ability. The same thing happens when you lift. My friends and I used to take some time on the bench press, put on 75 pounds, and keep going until we couldn't - one set. That was doing something entirely different than working our standard 80% max press. That being said, if you really can do 40 or 100 or even 500 of these full speed, full explosiveness, this will build power, just like doing squats and hip sled. muscles are lazy by nature. what makes them grow is maximal effort. high repetitions build muscle endurance, not strength, as the muscle doesn't have to exert maximal force to lift itself. As pockets said, squats would work better here.
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also on beale, they host boxing matches on the first tuesday of every month.
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the even is called kickshoot, and they are hosted by a man name jeff mullen - he posts about needing fighters all the time on mma.tv I'll dig up his number and shoot it to you. they are held downtown at the new daisy.
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focus mitts jump rope heavy bag weight bench and 300lb of weights (even though I have a gym membership) kali sticks boxing interval timer gloves surgical tubing ab roller (the old fashioned ones that looked like a tire) handwraps dumbbells - two 5lb, two 25lb and two 50lb ankle weights - 5, 10 and 20 lb pairs various training books and vids shin pads mouth guard cup katana broadsword bo
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don't worry about ufc right now - first you need experience. we have local shows here every three to four months. Also, there is a more professionally run show called the ffc that is usually held here, tunica or biloxi. once you have gotten some experience in small shows, you can step up to a bigger one, then a bigger one after that.
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I wouldn't wear one - for the reason you stated - you won't have on in the street, and it's not off limits. I think that wearing head gear is common sense, but I think a facemask is over doing it.
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you can always put that shoe on the other foot: If I am training in a style where we are learning lethal techniques, but due to their nature, I can't practice them at full force, will I be able to use them effectively on the street?
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we don't disagree often, but there's a first time for everything. for a new guy, timing will be a hard thing to master. to try and sidestep while fighting will get him hit. parrying and using his teep and jab will serve him better. I don't disagree that he should be taught it. But if he's fighting a hard, frequent puncher, that's not the time to practice it, given the history that this guy has.
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the training will be the same - frequency depends on that of the boxer. roadwork is the lone option - other than that, you do what the rest do, whether you intend on competing or not.
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full contact karate?? No. Point karate, yeah, there is plenty in memphis. Also, there are some mma and kickboxing events in memphis - thai, inaternational and american rules. american rules kickboxing is pretty much the same as full contact karate.
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it's a good technique. it's taught in muay thai as well. they also utilize a spinning elbow.