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do they do regional or angola? the guys I spar with love to fight. they train regional. BTW, you're not offending me in any way - I train thai boxing, bjj and judo - not capoeira. but I spar with these guys when I get the chance, and they are great.

if you think so, you really have no expeerience with anyone who is good at either. FWIW, I know jkd guys that suck too - does that mean it's useless?

he's only been training a couple of months- I wouldn't recommend sidestepping, as I'm guessing he's not that great at it yet.

it can happen - good time management. I go to either thai or judo every day, bjj when I can - class will be from 1.5 - 3 hours, depending on what I'm doing, and I put in an extra 30 - 60 mins on my own or with anyone who wants to stay and train after class. I am in the gym 5 days a week... I have a wife and child, and work full time. I still manage to spend time with my family and I train my son three nights a week.

I don't think it's a bad thing. that is how all sport gyms are run. Not everybody at our school fights, but they will all train like they do. The things we don't cover in class, like roadwork, are optional, but you will do all of the padwork, calesthenics, bagwork and sparring.

frazier had an agressive style - ali was elusive. I have an interval timer - I set the round length, and then set the duration for 15 seconds. every 15 seconds, it will beep. when the bell rings, shadowbox aggressively - lots of head movement and forward motion. when the bell sounds, switch to an ali style - lots of movement, plenty of jabbing. stay in one place only long enough to throw a quick combo, then move again. when the bell sounds, go back to the frazier style. Do this until the final bell at the end of the round. This gets fighters used to various styles of fighting, and the ali style is great for endurance. do the combinations where you want - pads, bag, air - doesn't matter. Monday, let me know what you thought about it. I'd like the feedback.

that sounds pretty good. I like that.

let's put it this way - are you gonna wait until you can bench 300 to join a gym? Or, will you wait until you know everything there is to know about a field before you go to college? No. Why? you join the gym to get stronger - it's not a prerequisite for joining. You go to college to learn - you don't already have to be a genius to go - they are there to teach you. On the same token, we are there to train you and get you in the proper shape. there is no need to be in shape before hand. We have a guy that has lost over 80 lbs in the year that he's been with us. that will come with the training. The person wanting to be pre-conditioned is typically mentally challenged - he thinks he may not be able to keep up, and doesn't want to hinder anything in case he can't.

I think I'd say application theory - not necessarily application. Application is DOING it - against someone else. there is throwing in kata, but you're not gonna find many karateka who can throw as good as a judoka. Why?because the actual doing of the application isn't there. a few of the other things you mentioned also fall into this category - like timing. you can learn self timing, but not application timing. doing kata isn't actively helping you to judge an attacker, as you aren't actually facing one. this is where bunkai, active drilling and sparring come into play. kata is only part of the whole, IMO.

I don't disagree. but the hands must be conditioned enough to withstand the force being issued through it. the hand conditioning was the beginning. the body mechanics were also learned.

anytime.

keep in mind that the length of amateur rounds is 2 min, so each round is 2 mins. there is also one minute of rest between rounds. jump rope - 2 rounds, 4 mins a piece between rounds, 40 squats, 40 pushups shadowboxing -1 rd. normal -1 rd. interval - ali/frazier -1 rd interval - normal and speed punching combinations - 3 rds skill work - 36 mins thai pads - 4 rds sparring - 4 rds ab work

the hand on the chin is merely to keep it covered from chin shots. that benefit is still there sans gloves. when you coever from a hook, you take the blow on your forearm as opposed to the glove. I actually take it on my forearms even with gloves, so that I am already in that habit regardless of situation. I dunno - I can parry and grab just as easily with the hand up. As for avoiding a shoot, the rear hand isn't much help alone. mobility is the key factor in avoiding a shot. I don't want my hand lower, unless I'm trying to under hook him. With the standard sprawl, you place your weight on top of your opponent, forcing him down.

That's the problem right there - IME, anyway. stikcing with the example of the TKD black belt in my class, and my prior kung fu training. you have to adjust to blok various areas. drop the hand to block low, raise it to block upward, etc. there is the potential for way to much wasted motion there, and you are susceptible to fakes. with a boxing guard, I don't have to make adjustments to block my head - you also have to keep in mind that that is the target where you are most likely to get knocked out and where most attacks are coming - it should always be guarded, IMO. for the body, my only adjustment is a simple hip rotation, so that I may deflect/absorb with my elbow/forearm.

Why would you make a readjustment? with the fist pointes upward - fingers would be aimed at the ceiling. the punch comes straight out from it's position, with the elbow remainging down, and the body rotating forward - it's the same for both the jab and the cross. Also, with the fist/arm straight up and down, you are in optimal position for defending your face. Where do you tell your students their fingers should be pointed?

coincidentally, I did this just last night. We have a tkd black belt who recently began thai boxing with us. he threw an axe kick, which I ducked under and countered with a cross to the solar plexus. I circled away from him (we were next to the wall) to get some space, and he lunged forward with a front kick. I shuffled back, then lunged immediately back, hitting him with a jab. The bell rang as soon as the jab landed, so I dind't follow up with anything. Another thing to keep in mind is that there are a few aspects of training that ALL even semi serious boxers and thai boxers incorporate: pad work heavy bag work road work abs ab work is a staple for any sport fighters regimen, for various reasons. however, in the context of conditioning and damage control - when was the last time you saw a boxer or thai boxer get dropped from a body shot? it happens, but not often. Even then, it is usually the result of several body shots wearing him down, not one, lone shot. The two main reasons for this are that 1. body shots are fairly easy to roll with, so even if I do get hit, I can minimize the damage done 2. endless ab conditioning. In the example you gave, the reverse punch would have scored a point, but as long as the fighting was continuous, chances are that it wouldn't have had much effect overall.

the thing about a typical boxing stance is that with the elbows down, you use the elbows to parry shots to the midsection. Also, the footwork is quite mobile. when someone rushes in like that, shuffle back, just out of range, then counter with a jab/cross. I am so confident of this because I've done this so many times in the past I've lost count... experiences vary though, so what we've done and to whom is really irrelevant.

you can do a search on the forum for some of the workouts you'll see - I've posted a few, as have some others. I'm short on time now, but maybe tomorrow I'll post the workout I'm putting my group through tomorrow. As for sparring, you will typically begin sparring after 2-3 months - long enough for you to have learned basic offense and defense and to have had time to apply them in drills. If you have prior experience, the time may be shorter. When are you intending on starting?

the angle of the kick depends on the target. to the neck and knee, you may use the downward angle you referred to. to kick the floating ribs, use an upward angle. For the thigh, midsection or anywhere in general, cut into the target.

the main issue I see with your program is actual skill time - you only have two days where you shadowbox and two days in class. each workout you have should focus on your skill somewhat - since you can't use the bag, then the next best method is shadowboxing. vary up the shadow boxing - there are several shadowboxing variations that fighters can use. The next problem I see is strength and muscle endurance. One day in the gym and a few sets of burpees isn't enough, IMO.

1. if he's disrespectful like that, then he's training for the wrong reasons - he may just be looking for people to beat on... you may not want to train with him 2. if he hits you too hard, there is no shame in asking him to lighten up - sparring is not an actual competition, it's a training tool to help you both improve. As for tactics, you have to run.... move, dance around him and use your jab and front kick alot. the reason is that you need to keep him out of punching range so that he cannot be effective. also, boxers tend to put alot of weight on the front leg. use that to your advantage - quick lead leg roundhouses to the inside of his thigh. Since you say he kickboxes as well, he may not over weight himself like that, but you can always look for the opportunity.

it sounds like you're definitely on the right track. Let us know how it goes! when you're sparring, make a conscious effort to move - that will be key for you, especially if aggressiveness is an issue. With good countering tactics and movement, you can still take them on points.

FD, where in TN are you?

that is really no indication of how good you can/will be. heck, baxter humby only has one arm, and he competes... it's open to all, I'm sure. that depends on you. I don't know what you are looking to get out of a school/training, but you do. if you think that one school fits right off the bat, then train there. If you don't think it will, check for other schools. if they don't also have a grappling program, then they likely only compete in thai matches. you will still have to train grappling eventually in order to step into an mma venue. I HATE WHEN PEOPLE ASK THAT QUESTION. Seriously, I hear it all the time. The class will get you in the shape that you need to be in - all you need to do is go and train. People who want to "get in shape" before they begin training typically never begin training. As for eating, there is no specific diet - just eat healthy. What/how much you should be eating though depends on your weight goals.

I disagree that it will ALWAYS help. IMO, sparring is the other half to kata. If you don't work your techniques against resistance, you're gonna be hard pressed to do so when the chips are down. As you said, kata is the base - that base however, does not include application. this is where sparring comes in.