JohnnyS

The mental aspect of BJJ i.e. the problem solving.

If I had an altercation with someone in the street and they said they did martial arts - it'd be like a red flag to a bull. I wouldn't be able to help myself but want to smash them.

WC-Strayder I recognise that WC has great strengths for fighting in the street, but has some flaws i.e. susceptible to shoots, and hook punches. Also, I recognise the flaws in BJJ and will be quite happy to point them out or agree with anyone else who does. However, I've been in the martial arts long enough, and trained with enough different people to know what works and what doesn't.

WC Straydor, The reason I presume this person is lying is because ... where is the proof ? There is a presumption of innocence in most Western societies and I'll assume that the Gracies are innocent of fraud until someone proves otherwise. Like I said, this person has found a quick way to give themselves a boost in the public eye without actually fighting. Why not enter another MMA competition to prove their skills? Why not walk into the Gracie academy with a video camera and challenge Royce ? Or go to Rickson's school and challenge him like Yoji Anjou did ? He got smashed for it but at least he had the balls to put it on the line.

Same as my signature. Brown belt in BJJ, 3rd Degree Black Belt in Shootfighting, 1st Black Belt in TKD. I also trained in Okinawan Goju-Ryu for a few years and was allowed to wear my TKD black belt. I was going to go for my black belt grading in Goju but got seduced by the dark side (BJJ).

I'd also like to point out that Wing-Chun is very susceptible to takedowns with a shoot because of their stance. So to say that no-one could grab hold of your instructor seems to me to be a bit silly. Especially if his opponent is also a good stand-up fighter. It's always easy to get carried away with hero-worship, but there are plenty of good stand-up martial artists out there who cold hold their own against a WC man.

As far as the UFC being fixed, I doubt it. The Gracies came up with the idea but didn't pick the draw or fighters, that was done by Art Davies. The Gracies also haven't been involved in the UFC since UFC 4 or 5 so there's no reason these people who were "refused" couldn't have fought later on. It also seems a convenient excuse for all those "masters" who can say "Well, I wanted to fight them but they knew I was too powerful and refused me". What a joke ! If these people really are so deadly why don't they compete now, or in other MMA events ?

WC-Strayder, I don't think you cold be more incorrect. Firstly, with regard to stand-up, it's a slow learning curve. So someone who has been training for 15 years isn't going to be too far ahead of someone who's been training for 10 years. Secondly, if someone has spent all their time doing stand-up and you've done nearly the same amount but go off and learn takedowns and BJJ, you will win because you should be able to neutralise their stand-up enough to take them down and take the fight out of their element.

Treebranch, Kata isn't necessary to have good form though. You can get the same thing from drilling techniques against an opponent. In fact drills with increasing resistance would do more for your form than simply kata.

I think the term Traditional can be a mis-nomer. TKD for example has only been around since 1949, yet it's considered traditional , the same goes with Japanese karate which has only been around since 1922. BJJ on the other hand has been around since the 1920's and is considered anything but traditional. Also, just because an art is "modern" doesn't mean it's effective and vice versa. I used to train in Okinawan Goju-Ryu - a very traditional school and one of the best schools I know for learning self-defence and techniques that will work in a bar or streetfight. A lot of "modern" schools teach traditional techniques without understanding the reasons behind what they are doing and so their students are ill-prepared for a street encounter.

By making them angry you're also increasing their adrenaline and will to fight. I also doubt the ability to move around and retreat safely in a street or bar enviornment. We teach to give the person an adrenaline rush by b*tch-slapping them or kicking them then taking a step backwards and yelling "Back Off". This will give your opponent an adrenaline rush and by creating distance between you and your opponent you've removed the immediate danger to them. People's instincts are very powerful and the base human instinct is to flee danger. People will only fight if they're "cornered" e.g. you're a danger and in their face. If you make the space they will get "sticky feet" and their base instinct will be to flee, not fight. If you want to actually hurt the person, then calm them down first, then hit them hard and fast.

KSN Doug is correct. My BJJ instructor says the most important thing is that you enjoy what you're doing - otherwise you wouldn't continue to train.

Treebranch wrote: "You can make the big guy lose his cool, or make him chase you and get him tired, frustrate them" Please explain how you can do this in a streetfight or in a bar fight. I believe that a person can have a psychological edge and end the fight before it even really begins, but I don't see how you can make a person chase you to get him tired and frustrated. If that's the case why not just keep running and avoid the fight completely? Please also give an example of making a guy lose his cool and how that will benefit you.

HachiKyu, You might be correct in what you say - that a smaller person might have better endurance. As for me being arrogant - I think it's reasonable to assume that a smaller person will tire more quickly because they are pushing around someone (of equal skill level)who is bigger and heavier, whilst the bigger person is trying to move less weight. Please explain to me how that is arrogant.

paolung, When Royce fought Kimo the only rules were no biting and no eye-gouging.

ZR440, I would think that someone who had trained in only one style all their life would be more predicatable. E.g. You'd know that a wing-chun guy would have bad takedown defense, or a wrestler bad punches.

"customized for sport" and made more effective, as was shown by the Judo victory over ju-jitsu.

Rickson Gracie

Worst idea. Get SoulCaliber2 when it comes out.

Started at 16, now going on 33.

I know that Royce had low blood sugar levels after and during that fight and that's why he was in the condition he was. Look at his other matches and he was fine after wrestling bigger and better skilled opponents. What you're saying is all theoretical. Royce won. Case closed. Now, what was the point of your original post ?

Theoretically the technique may work. Unless you've used it though under "live" conditions, you don't know whether it will work or not. There are far too many martial artists running around - CMA especially - that talk about how their art is battle tested and so is superior. C'mon, unless the technique is being taught exactly the same hundreds of years later (which I would doubt because who has the "live" experience to know all the important details), and in a live envrionment you're only theorising and living off past and dubious glories.

I did watch the fight. I watched it when it first happened and since then. You're guessing and if the fight had been on the street then Royce would have broken Kimo's arm. That's what I know. What's your point though and how is it relevant to the title of the post ?

I might have to call in some help on this one, but I agree that soldiers grappled and used their swords. As for the rest (i.e. levering the sword down), well, it depends on who was fighting. Also, what does fighting with swords and the battlefield have to do with self-defense today ? You can't carry around a sword. You can't just stab someone because they pushed you.

You know this how ? Oh, you mean you think this ? I don't recall Royce being thrown on his head. BTW, those floors are not padded. They are the same as a boxing ring i.e. wooden floor covered by canvas, so explain why it would be any different. Please also explain the point of your post.