Himokiri Karate

Curios to know the idea behind the outer wall of ruins of a 500 year old house and cemetery?

This somewhat the sequel to my strange kung fu master thread who was referred to as master x story that had the student post his strange story in 2000s which i still can't find... Anyway this thread is about eccentric masters, teachers of martial arts and their training halls. Curious to know if you have any strange or unintentionally funny stories? Just to clarify that I have an eccentric boxing coach but he is VERY effective and so this is not about disparaging towards the unconventional. Some strange folks can be insanely insightful.

Hilary Swank might be award winning but her career has kind of dwindled down due to other avenus of entertainment in forms of social media stars. Ofcourse Cobra Kai series really hit a home run with the viewership and they did a bang up job with the comedy aspect as well as storytelling. so its possible she could make an appearance if this series does well in the second season.

I agree and let me add a dimension. In boxing there are no classes. You show up to the gym any time it's open and after warm up you get 10 minutes with the trainer one on one and afterwards you work on what you need to work on. Afterwards he checks up on you to make sure your doing things right.

Johnny was just a perfectly ordinary hormonal young man. Daniel was the bully. There was an older one that didn't go viral which was a three parter called "crimes of Daniel larusso" But good to know cobra kai supporters are here! Assaaaaa! Cobra kai.... Say it. Cobra kai, never dies! That's right! Yeah, I even like the cheesy third one. Terry silver is a goldmine of catch phrases and colorful quotes. "Waaaah wuuuh wuuuh, common little man lets see how good you really are" Barnes: who are you his mother? Silver: maybe. "Plutonium was a preferred waste you could dump it anywhere but now everybody is a detective" " I turn wimps in to winners not the other way around" " if your looking to be a bad boy in l.a snake is the boy to be bad with" Sorry I am a huge Terry silver fan and get carried away. Aaaaaaaasssssssssssaaaaah

When I used to train as a teenager, in wado then kung fu, the instructors were very mean. But they were mean because they were instilling discipline while teaching combat. Back then, this was the 1980s, I've heard it was even worse going further back, being a martial arts instructor was a free ticket to be violent. They would step us mid technique, make us hold our position and focus while having a leisurely walk around inspecting. And then they test someone at random. A totally unprovoked punch to the face to see if you block it or evade in time. Or a leg sweep to test how solid your stance is. It sounds horrible, but it sharpish develops your mental readiness and attention to detail. If you blocked or dodges their random attack, they'd look at you for a moment, you'd look straight back at them with no emotion on your face whatsoever, they'd pause, you'd keep staring, then they'd give a subtle nod and move along the lines. I remember one day at kung fu. We had a new guy. He was only on his second or third class. Our grandmaster visited from China. I guess if he'd known this guy was only on his second or third class he might have cut him a bit of slack. Anyway, he'd stopped us mid technique for inspection. There we all were eyes forward, no expression on our faces, machine like. Except the new guy who was looking about and smirking. I saw grandmaster in my peripheral vision slowly heading down the line inspecting us. He got to me, made some subtle adjustments to my posture, and moved on. I remember being surprised that he walked straight past the fidgety guy. Then suddenly, all I heard was HAI. ... BOOM. The grandmaster had delivered a dragon tail sweep and the fidgety new guy had literally gone airborne, and crash landed flat on his back. He never came back to class after that day. I understand being mean as a form of discipline but this guy was throwing insults at me. He wasn't correctly my stance, he wasn't telling me to do 60 push ups on my knuckles. He was just throwing insults and chuckling in a condescending way and I think he made a remark about being able to beat Mike Tyson because he is a black belt while all boxers are " too stupid to grasp the brilliance of karate" Arrrgghhh, he grossed me out. Just throwing insults and boastful claims while not even being mean for sake of teaching. All he made us do is Kata. Not all black belts, and/or Sempai's for that matter of fact, can teach, nor should they ever attempt to. Things beyond technical excellence have to be garnered in order to have even the minimum of an idea as to what teaching students is all about. Having that affable characteristics towards students is as basic as it gets. I don't subscribe to the bully teaching mentality, and I'll terminate with cause immediately, and if it's warranted, I'll expel said Instructor/Sempai. Being rude in any degree towards a student and/or fellow MAist and/or anyone is uncalled for because everyone deserves to be treated like a human being. Just because someone is a human being, that doesn't mean that that someone knows how to be like a human being!! Your Sempai in question would've been called on the carpet to be held accountable for those actions. I would've placed that Sempai on a PIP (Performance Improvement Plan), and that Sempai would've had to successfully passed each monthly phase, which has a 3 month duration. If not successful in any said phase, immediate termination with cause would've occurred. Our students are our internal customers, and without them, there's no business; just an empty building, and an empty building can't support the infrastructure. Want to hurl insults and not build up positively the students MA betterment!? Then that is sorely against the SKKA's Mission Statement; that's unacceptable...no exceptions...no tolerance!! Speak with your CI about this. If you don't receive the answer(s) your asking for, then perhaps it's time for you to search for another school. Good luck, and hang in there!! Great points as usual. Last karate place I trained was Kyokushin and the sempie, sensei and shihan had zero reason to yell, scream or hit a student because...sparring was our final treat before the conclusion of class and Kyokushin folks have to get their sparring in no matter what. As the saying goes, the proof is on the floor. So no need to punch someone in the face or scream and yell at them because the nature of kyokushin would instill that obedience. That and most people are already being exposed to abusive people that yell and scream either at work, family or school. I briefly had an opportunity to teach boxing to one person, my goal was the following: 1. Teach him solid fundamentals like footwork, jab, proper guard. 2. Hold pads in manner that addresses infighting, mid-range and out-boxing. 3. Show him different boxing styles that are outside the conventional style so for the future he can work his creativity. 4. Spar him using speed and not power so reaction is sharpened and damage not taken. My intent is to help student understand proper conventional move set, open his eyes to unconventional for creativity while acquiring the stamina/fitness without being concussed. This is what I learned when I trained with world champion boxers and high caliber karatekas That being said, the only time being a bit rough is alright is if the students are disobedient and order needs to be established so they understand that but the roughness cant be exerted on one or two individuals. Otherwise its going to make it look like its personal.

He reminds me of lars Alexander from tekken. Both have similar-ish hair style and both are karate guys with good morals. His named kept confusing me with the boxer. Anyway, his technique or at least body dynamics looks incredible. As a boxing practitioner I like to have the same solid movements incorporated to my style.

When I used to train as a teenager, in wado then kung fu, the instructors were very mean. But they were mean because they were instilling discipline while teaching combat. Back then, this was the 1980s, I've heard it was even worse going further back, being a martial arts instructor was a free ticket to be violent. They would step us mid technique, make us hold our position and focus while having a leisurely walk around inspecting. And then they test someone at random. A totally unprovoked punch to the face to see if you block it or evade in time. Or a leg sweep to test how solid your stance is. It sounds horrible, but it sharpish develops your mental readiness and attention to detail. If you blocked or dodges their random attack, they'd look at you for a moment, you'd look straight back at them with no emotion on your face whatsoever, they'd pause, you'd keep staring, then they'd give a subtle nod and move along the lines. I remember one day at kung fu. We had a new guy. He was only on his second or third class. Our grandmaster visited from China. I guess if he'd known this guy was only on his second or third class he might have cut him a bit of slack. Anyway, he'd stopped us mid technique for inspection. There we all were eyes forward, no expression on our faces, machine like. Except the new guy who was looking about and smirking. I saw grandmaster in my peripheral vision slowly heading down the line inspecting us. He got to me, made some subtle adjustments to my posture, and moved on. I remember being surprised that he walked straight past the fidgety guy. Then suddenly, all I heard was HAI. ... BOOM. The grandmaster had delivered a dragon tail sweep and the fidgety new guy had literally gone airborne, and crash landed flat on his back. He never came back to class after that day. I understand being mean as a form of discipline but this guy was throwing insults at me. He wasn't correctly my stance, he wasn't telling me to do 60 push ups on my knuckles. He was just throwing insults and chuckling in a condescending way and I think he made a remark about being able to beat Mike Tyson because he is a black belt while all boxers are " too stupid to grasp the brilliance of karate" Arrrgghhh, he grossed me out. Just throwing insults and boastful claims while not even being mean for sake of teaching. All he made us do is Kata.

I have been in boxing and various martial arts ( karate,judo,kung fu) and to be honest with you, at the end of the day, everyone is a human being and even martial arts experts are going to have their prejudice and terrible characteristic as a human being. When I was a young teenager I was doing Shotokan and the Friday night instructor was the meanest person ever. He would do katas and I couldn't do it right and he kept saying making rude remarks not worth mentioning. I for the longest time had a bad taste in my mouth against Shotokan but then there are beautiful human beings in Shotokan like Sensei Hotton who's teaching philosophy can be applied to other martial arts. My point is what the other poster said, you are a paying customer, he is your employee in a context of providing a service in their area of expertise which is karate. Failure to provide proper knowledge/attention means that he is not doing his job correctly which means you have a right to leave.

Johnny was just a perfectly ordinary hormonal young man. Daniel was the bully. There was an older one that didn't go viral which was a three parter called "crimes of Daniel larusso" But good to know cobra kai supporters are here! Assaaaaa!

Ok so here is a question. Let's say sony owns the copyright in both Canada and us but they don't own the trademark. Does this mean a karate person can open his dojo with the name cobra kai but can't make books and videos that is cobra kai themed? Like you have your own cobra kai school and the service you offer is instruction. As long as you are not selling anything based on the material of the movie then you are fine. Is that an accurate statement? Oh and to the poster that said the cobra kai is bad. I disagree, the cobra kai are not good or bad. Their method is based on the reflection of reality and that is a merciless world. I like the zen and calm miyagi approach but yin and yang have to coexist together. Sense John kreese was honorable enough to allow larusso and miyagi to train without disruption of his students. That has to mean something. I have been in boxing and other combat sports and the people I saw act the way they did would make John kreese look like a sweetheart. Specific example in boxing would be racist insults or bitter local boxers discouraging young boxers with disparaging and false comments to get in to their head. Sorry didn't mean to get a bit off topic but anyway, I liked the cobra kai because they had effective training and they ran it like a military. No nonsense, solid conditioning program and they had great footwork in the tournament.

Hi, before we start, I want to thank you for making me the member of the month in the month of May. I just logged in and saw it and I greatly appreciate all the kind words. Now here is something, I saw an extremely funny YouTube series called Cobra Kai about the main antagonist of Karate Kid being the main character. The humor comes from his lack of knowledge of Facebook and modern behavior that people refer to as politically correct or "PC" That being said, I saw that in real life, there is a cobra kai jujitsu and a cobra kai fitness. It made me wonder... Can real life gyms/dojos name their place after cobra kais? Like I would love to have my own cobra kai gym (not jujitsu/fitness) but I assumed people would get sued or can you avoid the lawsuit if you make changes to the name? What I mean is, instead of "cobra kai karate" it could be cobra kai kung fu. Would that avoid the legal left hook sort of peak?

Awesome thank you guys! Even though I am late to the party. I was thinking about the time I signed up here. I remember during those times I was obsessed with sparring and combat. Over time I saw the negative effects of combat training and the positive effects of being more martial arts which is embedded in longevity and quality in life. It amazing, Karate became tamed because the folks from the past were getting injured. Now we see the cycle of safe, sensible practice being incorporated in various combat sports form. That's what makes traditional martial arts amazing. They are the way they are because of an evolution that took place in the past. I thank all of you for all the conversation and I of course look forward to making replying to more threads.

Good answers and truth is, there is different deminison to a persons seriousness towards training. From what I have experienced that distinguishes the casuals vs the serious are: Casuals: - Weight loss/fitness - Fan of the martial arts - Looking for an activity and they found martial arts Serious: - Cares deeply about every small movement in their form/technique - Studies the movements and history of the martial art style that they are practicing - Serious effort to reach the pinnacle of that art in combat or technical/physical mastery Now its hard to say how many days. Myself, when I was a casual boxing fan. I was training 5 times a week because I had the time. This schedule seems like it would make me a serious trainee but fact of the matter is, I was hitting the bag and being fit but there was no internal dialogue or real passion for the moves that I was practicing. Then I fell in love with boxing but could not train everyday because I was helping family business. So I could only train 3 times a week but I was so madly in love with the boxing footwork/martial arts movement that I was practicing it at home late at night. I remember improving during the 3 times a week training because the passion and internal dialogue and conscious attention to details was there.

I remember years ago ( I want to say mid-2000) someone posting an odd experience with their martial arts experience. Posted in various martial arts forum, someone ventured in to an odd kung fu class. He was met with a female receptionist in what seems like a semi-private studio. She told the student to wait until Master X is finished with one of his students. Once that was done, the student was introduced to master X who was described to have the traditional kung fu master outfit with the long sleeves with a tiger and dragon mark in the front of him. ( The outfit style resembling Mercenary Toa/Crane Hermit design.) Afterwards Master X had the student do some weird resembling an anime energy attack at a wall informing him that repetition is the key to success. This is as much as I can remember. I remember it was a popular story in various forums. This was during the forums era before social media blew up in popularity. As mentioned, it was posted in various martial arts forum. I know I am misremembering the details but curios to know if you guys remember the story? EDIT: Just to clarify, he was not doing an energy attack. He was doing the hand gesture. There was no energy attack.

Well said, the ultimate end result is improvement in quality of life. However, this one has served me best: But not online...just what's in the bold type above!! For me, word of mouth, has always served me the best, and I will not turn my back on it; most successful for me!! My Sensei and his Sensei used the Ads method; passing stuff around the town. They both have heavily used the Events method both here and in Okinawa; that's how my Sensei found his Sensei in Okinawa. To each their own!! Ad posters are pretty good. Do you offer any fitness incentives? Like having a fitness class after Christmas for the new years resolution. Its free that's true but isn't facebook oversaturated?

How important do you find marketing to be in the martial arts and what method or methods do partake in? List of methods: Competition: Going in to tournaments in different striking or grappling tournaments. Internet marketing: creating an e-course and promoting your style and adding your own unique flavor in to it Ads: both online or just posting your stuffs around town Events: public practice in the park or some charity that gets your school name out there in community. Guerilla marketing: hiring a graffiti artist to paint the town in a manner that is your school or leads you to your school. Social Media: using any and every platform to get your name out there like becoming an instagram sensei or something like that. The reason I mention this is, I am beginning to notice a trend that people are becoming turned off with the lack of culture in the MMA settings. There is a slow but noticeable shift towards traditional martial arts once again. I say this for two reasons: 1. The most important reason is the amount of injuries in MMA schools. The nature of MMA training for most gyms is not a very nurturing and it tends to attract the wrong personality archetype. As people get older, they want self-defense as well as fitness, fun and a sense of community. 2. I noticed that people are valuing martial arts in their singular form. Boxing gyms are full of recreational members looking for fitness and weight loss. While people love judo and jujitsu because they wont get hit but they can still be competitive. That and working towards a higher belt. Curios to hear your opinions on this and what is going around in your towns.

I participate in boxing and I appreciate the fact that there is a structured route to competition but also can be used as a fitness or a form of self defense and it can be added to different martial arts styles.

Can you define normal? I myself am in to raw foods/vegetarianism as well as sprinting, swimming and meditation in order to take my physical attributes to the next level. Then again I knew a guy who never did any type of dieting but would throw 5 thousand jabs per day at the bag. I did not. So it is important to define normal.

If you are planning to challenge a Himokiri Karate master, then make sure you got insurance.

There is an MMA fighter who is a karateka. During his prime, when he won the championship, he called his style of Karate, the "Machida" style. Shortly, he lost his title and his luster and somewhat faded away from the spotlight and now remains as a solid UFC fighter. I am curious to know, in a name of creating a style and then giving that style credibility. Do you guys feel like the Machida style karate is a style that is recognized within the karate circles? I ask because I am not really in the Karate circles.

I want to do a fun thread. I want to name few fictional karate styles I know and explain their backgrounds. Feel free to add your own or let me know which is your favorite. 1.Himokiri Karate: From the Baki series, this is a obscure style and within the storyline, its looked upon as a gimmicky style. Though it is very deadly. The specialty of this style is small, pin point finger and toe strikes that are designed to cut people. In Shaolin Kung Fu, its referred to as diamond finger and the signature move of this style is a Nukite which is a real move. Not really a homage to any specific real life style but this is my favorite due to its accuracy and obscure history. My favorite style of fictional karate. 2.Shinshinkai Karate: Also from the Baki series, this is the mirror image of Kyokushin Karate, founder looks exactly like Master Oyama. In the series, is a world wide style much like Kyokushin. 3.Mishima karate: This is a family style of the Mishima family from the Tekken series. Its a very powerful style and more fictionalized than Baki due to Ki charged attacks. 4.Cobra Kai Karate: From the Karate Kid, it is a tough version of sports karate. Nothing unrealistic. John Kreeses students had decent footwork and Terry Silver was sparring kickboxing and so it maybe a karate with small amount of kickboxing.

I am not sure if this answer is satisfactory but the closest thing to a Samurai dojo would be to check out Takeuchi-ryū jujitsu. Its one of the oldest style of jujitsu and in reality that's what the Samurais trained in. This style offers all kinds of skills such as weapons and even restraining arts.

I am curious, as a martial artist, do you consider shadow boxing a form of kata similar to kung fu and forms? Every now and then, I wonder what a martial artist perception of boxing is.

I have the flexibility express by Tom Kurz but its very similar and on the same principle as Bill Wallace and having seen them both, I can say Bills method is slightly better and its all over YouTube.