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I agree with KyoSa as well, quality movments are key in regards to any type of defenses. With regards to firearms, which many practitioners may not be comfortable with, this is doubly important. If your not comfortable with teaching quality movments, then one's unfamiliarity should be acknowledged and outside help sought. There are pleny of good instructiors out there who teach basic courses up to advanced seminars in such things. Even an NRA basic class can bring one relitively up to speed on basic shooting and safety. This shouldn't be seen a limitation for someone, but an opportunity to advance their own sd knowlege base.

Nice thread, can't beleive I didn't notice it before. Wed- treadmill work, 1/2 mile followed by 1/4 mile backwards by 3 sets chest and tri's trapping work for 20 min. or so Thurs- class nite warm up worked escape series from side mount to half guard to full guard, optional sweep in series for about 15 minutes free roll for another 30 min mitt work for 15 free sparring (mma rules) for 15-20 I'm detailed to the range this week so I also got about 200 rounds down range between qualifying with different firearms and our combat course. Friday- Off day. Yeah Sat- 1/2 mile run, 50 back extensions, 50 sets ups by 3 rounds back/ bi's bag work (all on, hand, feeet, knees, elbows) 5 3 min rounds I'll try and keep up by weeks on this one. Really cool seeing what else other people were doing.

Avengers is still a couple of years out, I understand but on it's way. I can't imagine that it wouldn't include Cap.

I can't speak for the study of historical weapons, we don't use the traditional japaneese weapons exactly for the reason you lay out...we won't use or face them. Now knife and stick work are a different story. They are both prevalent and easy to access as tools of defense. That you may indeed face either of these and that you can very easily have either at your disposal, is why we practice with these. Yes, I think firearms training should be address by black belt level as well. That's just the kind of work we live in and the prevalenence of handguns means that seriuous discusion on defense and use should be considered as well.

Yeah, it's no good when people limit their knowlege basedo n what's allowable in tournys. However, once you start competition, you're bound by the rule set and you might as well make it work to your advantage. Gain points by position is not a bad thing, remember, position is the cornerstone of good grappling and the building block for submission attempts. Not a bad thing to work on. Not that winning by submissin is a bad strategy. But be sure you're prepping for the specific rules of each tourney you enter and train as much as possible under those rules prior to comptetition. One thing I've done is even disallow submission attmepts during sections of free rolling just to get people used to working the points system.

I'd add Tang Soo Do as well. Really, many karate systems seem to be drifting in that direction as well.

How's maybe? I think it's a question if he still wants to do it as bad as he did before. Certainly he's slumping and that happens. It's obvious as well that he needs to reinvent his game to continue to compete, people have been watch his style for years now and working on the stratigies to defeat it. If he heads to training camp, puts the effort in and comes out as a different fighter, he could easily stand at the top of the hill again for a while. Or, he has been there and done that, the time and effort to do all that may just not appeal to him anymore. In which case he could hang it up with pride in what he's done. I think we're just gonna have to see what he and the organization decide to do .

Agreed, mindset is everything in combat. Given that, an mma-er is as likely as anyone else to prevail. Maybe more so due to the methodolgy of training used by many serious students. Many knock down-drag out's I've been exposed to look much like an ugly mma fight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the point that mma is the best sd from out there. I really don't think it is. It overlooks many effective movements that I've seen utilized successfully. I'm just saying that mma practitioners are often charaterized as not being able to defend themselvs outisde of their narrow rules confines and I don't think that's true at all. I think that more important than what is being trained is the methodology behind that training. Is it developing a combat oriented mindset? Can skills be applied without forthought? Can adaptations be made when primary movements prove uneffective? A wholy combative art, designed to be a sd art should consist of , in my opinion, good defensive movements,striking, ground fighting, standing joint movmements, clinch fighting, and wepons training and defenses. Mma-ers work on many of these and can't be brushed aside in the "how would x do in a real fight" debates.

bushido man's post made me realize that a bulk of this problem revolves around the quality of the student in question. One that was really wnating to learn with a good personality would have little trouble intergrating regardless of how it was done. One who was more interested in showing how his style was superior would be problematic no matter how the integration was approached.

The feeling sounds normal enough to me. However, don't take this stuff lightly. If you're worried, ask a doctor.

In the scenario above perhaps the best thing would be to have him attend some sort of open class. Like an open sparring day. It would allow him to train with a bunch of people from the system and work on those skills. If he's interested beyond that, you could work on other aspects during that time as well. Maybe only let him come to that informal class so the others don't feel that they are getting shorted somehow. I also don't charge and it makes like much easier. Then again, I don't have to worry about keeping doors open and lights on. I see the stress that the gym owner has where I help out at and it makes me glad I never decided to take on something like that. I've always flirted with the idea. My wife is often quick to point out when the subject comes up that I really like the idea of running a school more than I would actually like doing it. Yeah, she's pretty smart.

Can't wait. Here's hoping it's a home run and the Avengers film isn't far behind.

I'm pretty relaxed on uniforms, but rank is not unimportant to me. So, I'd probibly let them train with us (and be glad to see something new) and wear their old rank. Whatever uniform they wore would be fine. That, or they could just wear normal workout clothes. As a side note, if someone does come in to learn what I'm doing from another school with rank already, I let them keep that rank and wear that belt. I figure that they earned it in their style, I should respect that. They don't get certificate in my system until they pass an equivilent rank unless they just want them.

Good start, and glad to hear it. Good luck.

Daily, not so much. I try to break it into weekly chunks of time. For example, I want to train ma at least twice, lift 2-3 times, and do a crossfit workout at least 3 times. Obviously, I have to overlap. A rest day with nothing is nice in there to. I try (try is the operative word) to get those things worked in over a week. Then, I'm not tied down to a day to day ritual.

I agree, it's your view either way and you should proceed as you feel you should. As devil's advocate, I'd ask how protective your system is of their kata. Maybe it's no big deal to anyone involved. Part of it probibly depends on how bad the "not good terms" were. I've always been a fan of training whoever wanted to learn, but you should act how you feel is appropriate. Not based on you respect for your school as much as honoring what you feel is the best course of action in the situation.

True, mma is bound by sport specific regulations. Still, given the contact levels that are utilized in training, and the more realistic simulations often incorportaed, you can't discount an mma fighter in a street brawl. Consider the conditioning alone is formidable, there is also the fact that mma training doees mentally prepare you to hurt someone in a way that many traditional MA's don't (training methodology dependant, of course). Further, just because the average mma-er isn't routinly using eye gouges or groin kicks in the ring doesen't mean that they won't, in desperation, use them in the street. I know, they don't train for them and it's a valid point. However, most gougeing, groin attacks, hair pulling, ect. is pretty basic, and automatic in nature. This means that they are easier to utilize on a limited training basis. It's part of the reason that they are popularly utilized in self-defense only courses. Plus, they are reasonably effective. Obviously, this dosent' exactly count for the multiple attacker scenario, ect. Still, your average mma-er probibly stands as good, if not better, chance agaisnt this scenario as a more traditional ma er does. I'm certainly not saying that it's the best form of defensive art. In fact, we've often seen good mma'ers lacking in sd skills. But it's not a bad base and is often discounted too early in discuaaions like these.

Yes, there is air. Yes, it's used quite a bit. We do shut it down when we have a fighter cutting weight for obvious reasons. My facility at home is has air, but being in the basement it heats up pretty fast so it dosen't feel like it for long.

Hey all, I was just wondering what kind of space/facilities does everyone have to train at home with? Some of my best training memories are garage type gyms that I spent time working at in addition to a school somewhere, so I try to keep the tradition alive a bit. Anyone else? My current set up at home is the back half of basement, kind of finished. One half is weights, treadmill and such. The other side is matted with wrestling mat. There is just enough mat room for four guys to drill on or have one match of free fighting of any kind occuring in. It works out great. Additionally, I have three large carpeted gymnastic matts that make there home in my garage. they stay rolled up but can cover a bulk of hte floor if we have more people around to fight. My bags hang out here as well. What do other people have? I th ink it'd be a great way to get ideas.

March 14th, almost the Ides of March .

I left out a major factor in my above post. Mindset. You have to mentally focus on going through your opponant. Nothing else will suffice. If you train mentally this way in the gym you'll be more likely to be able to utilize it during a real fight. I try to picutre going straight into the indivivdual with every movement. Every strike, every joint position, everything gets deployed with maximal effectivness mentally. To go along with that, I alwmays try to mentally set myself to moving through damage. Nothing he has can hurt you, nothing he has can hold you down. Nothing. Keep moving until he's rubble. That's the mental focus needed to survive and win. As far as how they look, I don't worry too much about it. Of all the takedowns I've practiced in my life, the one I've used the most in my line of work is the full-body tackle. It get's results and ususally leaves me in a superior body position. Does that mean that all those other reps were worthless? Not at all. For one, I may use one at any given time (ex. I've used leg sweeps from time to time as well). Additionally, every time you work on takedowns or throws, you're working center control and balance. Something that will only aid in the execution of those movements that you fall back on. So being really ready for the real thing boils down to training prep and how it's done and probibly more important, mindset. Sorry for the two posts.

Training realisically can help in this regard. Good attacks given with variablility that force a defender to train spontaneoulsy will certainly help one apply movments better in reality. Mental prep shuld ceratinly include the acceptance of injury. It's a componant often overlooked. So is the fact that things will rarley go as planned, therefore, momvents should never be stopped in the gym just because "it wasn't working". Students must learn to continue on and regain control of the situation.

It has gotten in the way of everything from other commentments to relationships since I started it. Fortunatly, as I've gotten a bit older, and hopfully wiser, I realize the importance of other things. My family leaps to mind, and I have curbed the time I spend away from them for it.

I was lucky enough to train for a time with Keith Hackney of early UFC fame. By extension, I was on the floor with Gideon Ray who would later go on to be on the Ultimate Fighter tv show for a season. I did several seminars in the early 90's with Bart Vale, who was the heavyweight shootfighting champ. I even trained at his school for about a week while preping for a tourney. I still train from time to time with Jim Theobald, who was one of the best MMAer's in the state for a time. He pretty much taught me my ground game. I also trained with a guy named Leo Kirby for a long time. He won a Pan-Am division last go 'round. I was with him well before his heavy involvment in BJJ, however. I did have the great opportunity to be on the mat with Matt Hughs as well. Now let me put a disclamer on this. It was when we were both at EIU. He and I had mutual friends and we only rolled a couple of times. Yes, he was amazing even back then. Boy, do I wish more of that talent had rubbed off .

You're not imagining it. This drop in adrendal activity is called a "para-sympathetic backlash" by people way smarter than me. Basically, it's a near shut down (in a functional sense) of systems after an inital adreniline dump occurs and the body processes it.