Kyle-san

Of course it's personal preference, however the "everybody" that I know loved it.

I'd have to agree that assualting Royce Gracie is one of the stupidest things possible, he knows well enough how not to be caught by multiple opponents in a fight and has picked up some striking over the years.

A takedown. I was refering to the piledriver kind of move where you pick someone up an purposefully slam them to the ground as hard as you can, not executing a throw or takedown. And, yes, small joint manipulation is frowned on in most schools in terms of tournament rules.

I couldn't tell you how many styles of Jujutsu there are. There are honestly way too many to even name, and usually they don't keep in contact with each other. Even then it's one or two styles in an area, so it's hard to say which is the best and which has the highest striking/grappling mix. Personally, I've found Aki Jujitsu to be very well balanced, and certainly very effective. However, I only know of half a dozen black belts in the style so it's not likely to be very well known.

I've been in very few streetfights, but have come out of them without a lot of punishment.

No, you're supposed to avoid any "slamming" techniques, but anything else is perfectly legal.

I'd have been more impressed if you had avoided the fight. So, from what you've posted, I'm getting that you were drunk and someone said something about BJJ not working against multiple opponents, so you beat him up. How very MMA of you.

Only the Strong.

Personally, I'd keep the rank and not worry if I'm up to speed with everyone else at my level. I'd just work as hard as I could to get to where I think I should be and trust that my instructor has made the right judgement. With that said, everytime I've looked into a new martial art I've always started as a white belt.

I'd have to agree that BJJ will give you excellent chances one-on-one.

8 years in training, 18 years learning about them. I currently practice Aki Jujitsu. Shotokan Karate - 1st Kyu Brown Belt ITF Taekwon Do - 4th Gup Blue Belt Aki Jujitsu - White Belt Wing Chun Kung Fu - Yellow Belt Ketto Ryu Jujutsu - 6th Kyu Yellow Belt Karate and Taekwon Do were both done when I was younger, but I quit for personal reasons. I took Wing Chun for 4 months to see if I liked it, but decided it wasn't for me. I took Ketto Ryu Jujutsu for 4 months in order to continue practicing Jujutsu until I was able to return home. Aki Jujitsu is the art I'm focusing on now, and the one I'll stick with.

I agree. I'll push it as long as I can, but when it gets to the point of causing damage I'll tap.

Generally speaking, it's not likely that the TJJ student would be able to do as well in those specific situations. However, it depends on the style. I've seen some where the TJJ student is the equal of the BJJ student in grappling (for that area, anyway) AND able to stand up to a kickboxer/muay thai style striker. But I do concede that generally it's not as specific as those two systems. Especially not for competitions.

Sadly, no. I have to finish studying for my exams, then pack and get ready to move back home. I can't get back to the dojo until the 28th.

So you would take two styles to get the same training that one would give you? As far as the ranking in TJJ, it all depends on the club. The Ketto Ryu Jujutsu dojo I was in gave me my yellow belt in 2 months, whereas the Aki Jujitsu dojo take at least 8 or 9 months to get to yellow (unless you're really ready before then). From what I keep hearing about BJJ ranking, grading, and training it sounds almost exactly what's done in Aki Jujitsu.

N e ways thnx 4 posts The parts I've highlighted were what made it confusing. It sounds like you want to know the requirements for a "win" in a streetfight, the focus of your questions seems to be on the end of the fight and not what techniques are used to get to that point.

And I completely understand that, which is partly where I'm getting confused. If the condition is the same in all three arts, why are people labelling JJ with that particular excuse?

The phrasing threw me off. I honestly didn't understand what you were getting at with your question. Perhaps if you attempted to make it clearer more people would understand what you're getting at.

Fair enough, but as it's been pointed out many times before one particular school doesn't necessarily speak for the style as a whole. I can say the same thing about not seeing people sweat for almost every martial art, it all depends on the dojo. I should point out that the Ketto Ryu dojo I attended regularily practiced stand-up contact sparring, randori, submissions grappling, and a combination of the three, as well as situational defences. The reason that full resistance isn't used when in practice is usually because the move is a break or other seriously damaging technique. Personally, I wouldn't want to resist when someone is working on dislocating my shoulder and breaking my elbow in one combination.

Ah, I knew I recognized the first one. I need to brush up on my vocabulary, it seems.

That's the lesson I've taken from all this.

That's not exactly anything new. Many teachers of swordsmanship in feudal Japan promoted their system based on "secrets" that were nothing more than a bit of dexterity applied to a basic move.

Wait, I must be missing something. Where does the assumption that a traditional JJ student doesn't train hard come from?