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"One, I have heard that it takes up to ten years of Aikido training to be able to use it in a fight. Is that true, how long does it take (average) before you can use it?" Depends on how hard you train, but I would agree that it takes MUCH longer than most other TMA and MMA. It also depends on the style, I would say that the time taken in Yoshinkan, Shodokan and Yoseikan would probably be shorter to getting to a level of combat readiness, than Shin shin toitsu (ki) and aikikai Aikido. "Two, is there anyone on the forum that has used Aikido in a fight? How did it work and what happened?" Cant answer this one, as I have never been in a real fight. Although I have done some NHB type sparring, but thats not the same.

Shoto = outside Uke = block.

The US has a history?!?!?!?!

Indeed.

I have written in the thread "Is their kata in Aikido" where I have written what Aikido is like. I have written about a billion posts in General and this JJ section about Aikido so perhaps you could dig some of them up. If you want some specifics PM me and I will be glad to give you a hand. Regards,

The choice is obvious.......... .... Aikido. With your Judo and Ninpo training Aikido will give you a more fuild nature, which will increase the power of your already excisting techniques. But like the others said, its takes time and effort to learn. I have heard that there are a lot of Krav maga mcdojo's about so be careful if you do find one. Kajukenbo, is pretty good from what I have heard. Best of luck in your search. Osu.

satisfactory? Another word that can be argued. But other than using brow beating somantics (sp?)..... Judo will completement the 2 striking arts well.

After you "finsh" Goju and Shudokan? How many life times are you expecting?! Judo is great.... its as simple as that. Its main up of 2 areas. taichi waza, standing throws, locks and take downs. Ne waza- ground work, comprising locks, arm bars, leg submissions, chokes and hold downs.

After you "finsh" Goju and Shudokan? How many life times are you expecting?! Judo is great.... its as simple as that. Its main up of 2 areas. taichi waza, standing throws, locks and take downs. Ne waza- ground work, comprising locks, arm bars, leg submissions, chokes and hold downs.

Having just passed my 4th kyu I can tell you pretty accurately. Firstly Aikido has no unarmed forms. Well not in the same as a kata. Aikido does have exercises that we learn to use for application. These are called the misogi. They are rights of purifiction taken from the Shintoist religon. These movements form the bases of Aikido 2 man exercises. As for the gradings, in the Federation of which I am proud to be a member you do the following: Ki tests: which show to some degree an understanding of the 4 Aikido prinicples. (Relaxation, centeralisation, extension and having a light posture) During his you are pushed and pulled to "test" if you can keep your balance. Aikido: So you will have something called out to you like 1st form Tenchi nage, so your attacker will attack you first form which is a grab to the opposite side wrist. The tori will do the throw tenchi nage. (high grades) kneeling techniques. defence against knife bokken and Jo kata. Defence armed and un armed against Bokken and Jo. 2-4 muiltiple attackers all at once, so you would have one person holding down each arm, one behind putting on a rear naked choke and one around your legs or trying to punch you. So you have to remove all the attackers. 4-8 attacker single attacks. So between 4 and 8 men would stand around you, then attack you one at a time but randomly from around the circle. Any attack from 1st to 8th form. Hope this helps.

I am hoping to do a similar mix of Ki Aikido, Judo and Wing Chun or perhaps Kenpo.

I would go more towards a light weight Judo gi, than anything to do with karate gi's. They'll rip, so be careful what you buy. Perhaps ask your Sensei when you go to the dojo next. "gah, aikido"...... I will remember that Dober. Mwhahahahaha!

HOO ARR! AIKIDO! Have fun!

Basically: JJJ has striking/kicking/weapons as well as the throws. Judo has no striking/kicking/weapons as such. But has Randori, this free fighting ability gave it free rain over Japanese JJ styles for some time, it trashed them all nearly in challenge fights. This was mainly due to the Ne waza.

NO ART BASHING! NEVER! GET IN THE CAGE AND PROVE YOURSELF! MWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Its not the Samurai's fault that they were SOOOO much better than the Shaolin peasants........ Just trolling......

I would not say I do NHB rules, but on occasion, I meet up with a few mates from other systems (wing Chun, karate, judo and Ba Gua). And do virtually full power anything goes. I would agree that classical Judo/BJJ osaekomi is not really going to prepare you for those strikes. Its just a matter of training against them and being ready.

Stole the SHAOLINS BOOKS. No offence, but this old fella sounds like he has been drinking to much rice wine. When the CHINESE GOVERNMENT, tried to KILL all the SHAOLIN. Many fled to different countrys like Japan and Korea. Others moved to other parts of China creating there own styles, like Choy Li fut and Wing Chun. It just so happened that the Monk that specialised in Chin Na (Qin Na), fled to Japan. Chin Na being a locking and breaking art was the bases for the japanese jujutsu arts. These they further refined and perfected over about 800 years of civil war in mainland japan. As for women not studying Kung Fu, well a Nun created Wing Chun so thats not really true either. Try and sobber him up and then I am sure he'll tell you something useful.

I also think it would be worth people trying to pick ONE style thats their favourite. I always think its easy to list a few, but picking one is hard. Then actually explain why you like that style. Perhaps.

Well ALL karate came from China, as did mainy arts. Some were more influenced by the more leggy northern styles and others the more violent southern styles.

Well, for some minor problems I have with the art I would say Aikido. Biological, well in terms of body mechanics, it is superior in power generation that most. The way that the art is taught and the appreciation of the direction of energy, makes Aikido (at high levels) nearly invincinble. Energy moves the same way, no matter what the attack. So if you understand the energy then no attack at any range should be a worry. The techniques are subtle and powerful, giving you the choice between retraining your attacker or breaking them. The focus on tai sabaki (body movements) over blocking techniques, can yield better results in the long term. As evasion will tactically put you in a better position to counter than a block. Covers weapons training which although trains in weapons that wont appear in the street (sword, staff), it can be easier abapted to more real weapons like baseball bats, snooker ques and ofcouse knife training is very important in any martial art. Thats all I have to say about that.........

No, I did not thank him. Although when he got out of my full nelson, I had the biggest smile, a sort of amazed smile like this one ......... then he took me to the mat, and the smile when away.......... well on the outside anyway........

Looks like it would work to me, but I think throws like Ippon, have the fight stopping ability. BANG, lights out.

Ahhhh, I see. Its a nice looking throw.

Whats the difference between O soto Otoshi and Osotogari. They both look so similar. Osotogari is my favourite Judo move and scored my first Ippon with it. I think its a good throw, it gets you off the center line so you cant be struck to easily as perhaps the other hip and drop throws.