Kensai

"learn bjj..it's the only way your going to beat" I disagree, I think BJJers although Amazing fighters, have a limited stand up game. So, I think may of them would want you on the ground. So if you take that into consideration, then I would prepare lots of evasions against such attacks. Also, although BJJ is great at ground work, I think Judo and Wrestling have a very good ground game and so learning bjj is not the only answer.

Umm, DONT GO THE THE GROUND! I would say sprawl. Or take a natural posture like the basic Aikido stance. 60% weight on the back leg, then pivit out the way, and take a throw or pin. However, its not as easy as it sounds.

KI AIKIDO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ME TOO! Where are you from?

Its a joke, thats what it is.

360 my BJJ Nemsis has RETURNED!? Good to see you back. As for grappling, I do the KING grappling style of JUDO! As well as doing my passion of Aikido. My rank is in my sig.

Nothing has really changed. The body still has 2 arms and 2 legs. I doubt that CLF is obselete. If the techniques were effective 1000 years ago, they still will be today. I would say its more about YOUR training. In most traditional styles there is not enough FULL CONTACT sparring. This is something that I agree with the MMA/NHB people on. Plus, the traditional styles do take longer to apply. So 3 years in CLF Vs 3 years in Boxing, Boxing is going to come out one top. However, IMHO, 10 years of each then I think CLF would be on a par with any modern style. However, if you train in any traditional style and do lots of San Shou, Jiya Kumite and Randori then I think you'll be a better Martial artist for it. It may just be the case that you could not use CLF. The problem does not always lie with the style, it lies with the practioner. The style you study now, may appel more to your body type and personality, than CLF.

I was taught by one of his students Sensei Ohta, which I am sure will do the KUGB justice when he takes over. He was truely a powerful Karateka. Rest In Peace OSU!

Judo is really nothing like Aikido. The Key differences is that in Judo when someone pushes they pull and when someone pulls they push. In Aikido, when someone Pushes we turn and when someone pulls we enter. Although in philosophy they are similar in physical movements they are very different.

OH it was a joke! I must have missed that one, but then looking at the poetry you have as your signiture its no wonder it went over my head. LMAO! (LMAO! This means I am joking )

"i am elligible to make whatever kind of comment i want on kempo cause ive tried it." No such elligiability excists I am afraid, especially in this form. Honest debate, ofcourse, is always welcome. However, to what degree did you study Kempo to achieve this level of "psuedo" elligiability?

In short ninjutsu and karate are nothing alike in terms of techniques. However the 2 other Budo styles, Aikido and Judo, have a lot more similaritys with Bujinkan Taijutsu.

"no such thing as "combat effective aikido"! lol" Go back to Mcdojo and troll!

I never said he had to be proficient, nor do I assume that Wing Chun is easy to learn. But taking 2 arts from the word go is not an easy thing to do. A very small amount of WC will help understand Atemi better.

Yoshinkan Aikido, wow. That would perfectly compliment your Judo training. You might want to take a few Wing Chun lessons to get some solid short fist striking. Best of Luck.

War is unpleasant and a messy business. But sometimes it has to be done....... PS ROYAL MARINES ARE BETTER THAN YANK ONES! MWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

From the results that you have posted it would seem very conclusive. Yet people still study these "inferior" arts. I guess BJJ is not for everyone. IMHO, its a game of distance: IF it goes to the ground, then only someone VERY good in something like Judo, Wrestling, Chinese Fast Wrestling, Greco Roman.....etc is going to survive. If they were doing something like Aikido, Karate, Wing Chun or Boxing they are going to get hammered. So the game for them would be to keep the BJJer standing either in a striking game or standing up submissions. Its about the better man, the one that can make his oppenent fight his game. JIMHO ofcourse. Osu.

Kung Fu, your gonna have to specify a little. Kung Fu, as we all know just means "hard work". I assume you mean the Wushu "war arts" related to the nation of China. Their techniques cover all ranges well, but you'd have to study a few arts to become complete/well rounded. My choices would be something like, Hsing Yi (Linear, offensive), Ba Gua (Circular, Defensive) and Chinese fast wrestling (Ground fighting and Full contact training), then you'd be pretty good at all ranges. Provided you could apply it ofcourse.

Pacificshore, thats know as "blending", if you can blend effectively, then most stand up techniques can be defeated. Thats if your good enough ofcourse....

"Kensai that's what I'm looking for really.All those diffrent names coming outa Japan." Anytime.... "You think It's all the same but some how this clan named it this & that clan named it that ???" I think more or less every clan in Japan had its own system of fighting with its own specialitys. Also, its not just the personalitys that defined the styles, its geography. The Clans with greater access to Iron Ores would more likely has a great interest in Swords man ship and armour, those with vast grass lands would have more interest in horsemanship and those with huge forests in their lands might focus on Kyudo(archery) and Yarijutsu. There are SO many factors that influenced particular JJ styles. And thus, there hand to hand techniques were influenced by the weapons they used. As for JJ fighter, he has what I like to call "BJJ syndrome". The love he has for his style is very apparent and likes to share that fact with everyone. Although perhaps not in the nicest of ways, but he does so. JJfighter, talk about it as much as you want.... TJS: "kimura was so impressed with helios technique he visited the Gracie academy the next day and invited him to teach in Japan." Was that before or after Kimura beat him?

ohhhhh that swhat Kurt Angle does, so if he is so good, why does he not enter the UFC? Just out of interest....... The one that scares the hell out of me is Brock Lesner (sp), that guy is HUGE! How would you begin to fight someone like that!?

I disagree with you their TJS. BJJ is not the only style that trains hard you know...... Well........ Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu, I consider the king of the JJ styles, being one of the first styles in Japan. It was the style used by the Takeda family, which ruled Japan for sometime. Kinto/Kito Ryu, was the first ground fighting style in Japan. This was one of the styles that influenced Judo the most and therefore kosen judo and BJJ. I know very little about Kage Ryu, Iso Ryu, there are a lot more, but these are the only ones that I could think of.

That be fighting talk TJS.....

No.

Well, I know very little about Bruce Lee conditioning. I am aware that his fittness was godly, but the conditioning and skin hardening that Ueshiba when through was evil!

Tomoe nage is really more of a judo/jujutsu move and not one of the Six pillars of Aikido, so its not so often taught. But if you can do good Ushiro Ukemi (backward breakfalls) then you can do tomoe nage.