Kensai

Ok..... picking your posts to pieces? Yes I do. Why? Because I can! Be Well

Urr wrong again, I was never wrong in the first place. To be fair with the amount of "retoric" that you have come out with so far, I feel that your storys are a little unsubstantial. I am sure the telle tubbies book of Muay Thai has given you some great information. (joke) But from what I have read, in this months version of Martial arts. A MASTER in Mauy Thai, I am sure you are better than him. Of course full contact is going to make the body resistant to certain attacks, but tough no. Tough in MY OPINION, only MY OPINION, is someone that has something to prove, but Mauy Thai is an excellent MA with nothing to prove. Also are you trying to tell me that a Kung Fu practioner lost in 15 seconds to a mauy thai boxer. This is not unheard of, but Kung Fu, depending on the style is very kumite based. For example Jun Fan Kung Fu and Jeet Kun Do, very similar also do Jiya ippon kumite. Of course it could have been a poor Kung Fu practioner. iF you have a website of this then I would like the addy. Also the fittness that is gained from merely practicing a martial art is amazing, for example after the death of a monk at the hands of a white eyebrow monk, all sparring within the Shoalin temples was fround upon. But with their Chi cultvation they can take spears to the throat, I would love to see if a Mauy Thai boxer could do the same. But like ramcalgary said it is like comparing Apples and Oranges and he said is very true. It is ALWAYS the practioner, and YOU can be quoted to say the same thing, so why do you keep starting these threads when you already know the answers. Be Well _________________ *Aikidoka* Master the Divine Techniques of Aiki and no foe will dare to challenge you. [ This Message was edited by: Kensai on 2002-07-20 17:52 ] [ This Message was edited by: Kensai on 2002-07-20 17:55 ]

oh, blocks with the open palm can be very deadly, in the upper levels of any soft martial art they can seriously hurt a person. Soft martial arts are not about not hurting a person, they just approch self defence from a different angle. By a rising block I assume you mean an "Ageuki". Yes they can be used to a great degree to hurt ones opponent, as long as the bones structure of your arm is larger than that of Uke (Attacker). I would never trust a block went infront of my face like that, simply that if the punch is slowed or accerate, either they will punch your arm before it is fully extended in which case your own fist will smash you in your face, or the block will be up and the punch will sail into your face. I would personally, use "uchiuke" simply because less can go wrong and it can be aimed at Jodan level. Sorry just got side tracked, also behaps a side step would be better than a block. Be Well

I am sorry, but when talking to a martial arts chat room dont expect everyone to agree with you. Nor am I picking your posts to piece's, I am just giving you my point of view. I am very sorry if you can handle that. By a soft block I assume you mean an "evasion" like a side step. As a block by definition is in intercept something, prohibiting its intensions, so a soft block, that does not equal or exceed the speed and power of a punch or a kick will not block it. Also, one last point just because you have been in fights and a black belt sence whatever age, are you of the maturity to understand the true meanings of the martial art terms of hard and soft? Surely that if you sanction fighting then you do not. As you should know that the first principle of shotokan karate, is that there is NO first attack. If you were bullied then fair enough, I am sorry to hear that as I know what it is like, but because you have DOES NOT mean you UNDERSTAND hard martial arts. They cant be summed up in a paragraph and in some cases whole books have been written about them. How are you finding Shotokan? When are you expecting your grading? Be Well

The martial art does make a diffence in one key area. That would be wether it is budo, self defence, or a sport. Kicking boxing in my mind and in the mind of its creators in the states, is that it is a contact sport, like Rugby. Thats not to say that it could not be used in self defence, but then so could rugby. But from what I have read about Master Sken and Muay Tai, you train for self defence and moving towards the principles of the Budda for the mental conditioning. In terms of a REAL fight, then I would have to put my money on a Mauy Tai martial artist. But tiger, Mauy Tai prationers arent "tough" as you put it, it is more about the mental condition that they and all budo, combat and self defence artists usually address one time or another in there training. Be Well

Ummm Tiger, you do talk some rubbish. Soft arts are about Ki, Chi or Qi. Redirection is important, but not the central priniciple. I have a friend that studys Chi Kung, they do very little redirection. Its all about focusing Ki to a point in the body, the exercise I saw it was in the ankle, then returning the energy back through the opponent. I think really that all you know about martial arts is what you string together from this chat room. So please READ something, that has some good founding. http://www.cheungswingchun.com/WWCKFAindex.html Try here for Wing Chun, this site associated with the Wing Chun Grand Master William Cheung. "Elbows to the face, no that cant hurt!" Soft martial arts use such strikes they are called Atemi in Aikido. Soft martial arts punchs are said to be more potent than that of a hard practioner ( frankly I would rather not be on the end of either). Hard=elbows to face. So that is your diffenition of a hard martial art. And you are not really an authority in soft martial arts, or hard ones for that matter. but your best comment yet is Soft= Someone punches, you move out of the way and miss direct his punch with a soft block. A soft block, like a soft punch and a soft lock. You are a real comedian! Be Well

I know of this site. Do movements dictate aggresiveness, or the mind? I'll leave you to meditate on that. Be Well Tiger, you are most interesting to debate with.

Although I dont think about karate, I find my self at work thinking of locks and throws. I have a billion and one books, pictures all over my room and a Japanese flag, I love it. Be Well

A VIDEO! That would make you a master then, its great that from ONE video you can make that sort of judgment! Again a tell tell sign of ignorance, to a martial art you really know nothing about. Read about the martial art, try and understand its principles, then get back to ME! But its good that you argue for what you believe in, just make you sure you add some FACT to it before you go off on one. Be Well

Comparing martial arts to "snowboards and skiers" is alittle rash. I am sure that you have great abilities. Also what I said was only my humble opinion. That a person should only study one art, if one studys many then the purity of the art is lost, when he/she perhaps teachs. That is what I am thinking of, sorry Ti Kwon was not doubting your abilities. taichi, I study Ki Aikido. I only need the one martial art, have enough difficulties with that.

Wing Chun, again you make these bold assuptions, assuming that the rest of us know nothing about martial arts. Wing Chun.... read books by William Cheung and Ip Man. Aggresive. I know it seems like we are all picking on you, but when you make these wild young statements, then expect someone to pick you up on them. Wing Chun, does strike thats very true, but it is not aggressive. Also read the artical in "martial arts" by master Sken( I think thats his name) of Mauy tai. He may also disagree with your statement of his martial art to. Be Well

I would have to disagree. Each martial art has its own way of dealing with each situation. Confusing yourself with foreign techniques would not be a good idea. Remain pure to one martial art. Thats only my opinion ofcourse. But if I had to choose, it would always be Gung Fu. Be Well

http://www.cheungswingchun.com/WWCKFAindex.html This is an ok general site http://www.bushido-online.com/index1.htm Hope this helps

Young Tiger, I have already defeated you. The bad martial artist fights to win, a good martial artists defeats doubts within himself and the battle is already won. Thats not to say you are a bad martial artist. "As you can see I posted that when I started here with no idea of the martial arts so of course I was a bit ignorant, and yes of course grappling is important if you like that." But you posted it that the same day you created it. So you are telling me that you learnt everything there is to know about martial arts in the space of about 10 hours. hmm I think not! So really it is only ignorance to grappling that you have. "important if you like that" it is important wether YOU like it or not! You cant say to an Aikido or BJJ or JJ practioner, oh I dont like grappling can you please not use it, because then they'll just laugh at you, then take you to the mat! Also, what I said prior was not an invitation for a fight. Just so show you how viable grappling techniques are wether they are hard like BJJ/Sambo or Soft like Aikido. I may not study kicks all that often in Aikido, and my personal preference is to keep both my feet on the ground in a real situation, this does not mean that I dont appreciate the power that they can create. It would be foolish for me not to. Be Well

The Samuari were artists, police and keepers of the peace. Not just men of War.

8th Kyu in Shotokan I am a mere 6th Kyu white belt in Ki Aikido. Which I love dearly already. just come back from the best lesson of my LIFE. So much fun. Be Well

hmm Perhaps young tiger should come to a good Aikido dojo. And we will show you that your ignorance could lead you into serious trouble. The same goes for BJJ and JJ, plus other grappling styles. Why do you think they excist if they dont work. Be Well

Just met the head Sensei for my federation in the pub after a training session. A great guy, you just know about people. Say for example you have 2 6th Dan's which one is better the miserable one of the one that makes you laugh. Although having the abilities is important. Being a nice person really helps. Be Well

Gentleman please. All martial arts are great. Aikido, is soft and refined. I happen to love the Samurai arts from which Aikido came. O Sensei was a truely great man, as were many of the Budo and Chinese masters. Aikido WORKS. No strength, no muscle and I am a big fella, and my Sensei a 5 foot woman could destroy me. But the point that O Sensei would make is that she does not have to. Coming from a Shotokan upbringing, I thought that these soft techniques would not work, but they really do. But think what you will gentleman. You are always welcome for a free test where I train. As far as stances go, for me either standing normally hands by my sides, or Kamae, basic T stance, infact its the only Aikido stance. Be Well

I am just reading about him, in my humble opinion, you just dont go making up martial arts. The legenadry budo and chinese masters are very different indeed. Learn a martial art of legend, learn one of history and tradition. Be Well

I agree. If you don't really love it then you should not be doing it. Be Well

A shodan in Aikido takes 10 years. How could get it in 1? Even if is ant Aikido.

A shodan in Aikido takes 10 years. How could get it in 1? Even if is ant Aikido.

Thats what i though Bon............. very poor grading system possibly :???:0

To bring back the post to reality, I would say a jo, more practical than a bo. And better for locking and throwing technqiues.