WhiteShark

Light Welterweight Muay Thai It is great for fitness and Thai fights are fun and exciting.

Here are two that work about 90% of the time. These are Muay Thai techniques, a teep is a Thai front kick, and a sidekick is thrown more like a back kick. 1) Fake Roundhouse to Teep (80-90% depending on opponents commitment to the block) 2) Out of range High Roundhouse to sidekick (100% on aggressive sparrers)

Jab -> Cross -> Right outside leg Kick -> Grab -> Left knee -> Right Knee -> Right Elbow -> start over with Jab to adjust range Or Throw instead of knee after the grab. I guess you can tell but I fight Muay Thai.

Here is your answer: http://www.sanshou.org/docs/sanvthai.html From a San Shou site: "there is no answer"

Perhaps I don't understand the technique, is this a spinning back-kick? If it is, we are taught not to counterbalance but to stay small and keep your arms IN so that you spin faster. If you hit the target you won't need to counterbalance because that will get rid of the energy. And if you miss you will be spinning fast enough to go right back to your stance.

I gotta aggree with G95champ, but my perspective comes from the opposite side. I am a 5'6 1/2" (gotta have the half!) light welterweight. I train Muay thai in a gym with a lot of good fighters and the smallest guy I train with is about 40 pounds heavier than me and they are all taller. One thing you guys are missing is you can't always break somebodies knee or attack the groin! In sparring classes and competition you still have to learn how to deal with bigger opponents. That being said I have been taught and learned a few techniques. My coach has a good boxing background so he has passed on a lot of that knowledge about range and movement. I think that is where this advice comes from. Every fighter has a most effective range. Bigger fighters have longer range. Smaller fighters have shorter range. This seems like a big disadvantage, it's not you just need to learn how to work around it. When I first started sparring with a certain partner who was taller than me and had very long legs I would constanly get kicked in the left side (my forward side and their back leg) I was confounded by this because I thought I was out-of-range, and I was, out of MY range. You need to be aware of your opponents range too and be outside that! Now comes the tricky part, you are out of your opponents range, and out of your own range by a good foot sometimes. You have to learn how to close the gap, thus getting in your own effective range and INSIDE their range. Remember range has an inside limit too. The best time to change ranges is as your opponent is withdrawing a strike. For example my 6'3" opponent throws a jab at my head I parry it or lean out and as soon as the hand starts heading towards their body I follow it in and deliver attacks to the body and chin. I finish my combination and try and duck back out of range, back to safety. Now that I know how I like fighting bigger opponents they have bigger targets and are easier to hit!

Eventually you can move up to at most 6 days a week. That's how I train before fights. My normal pace is more like 4 days a week, remember rest can be important too.

Hey Eye' do you guys kick to the leg in English/European Kickboxing? I was just wondering because in most US Kickboxing they don't kick to the leg.

No offense Eye o'Tiger but kicking something as hard as a palm tree is really a bad Idea. The myth that Thai fighter kick palm trees comes from the very old tradition of kicking young banana trees. which are way softer than your average Palm tree. If you must kick something other than a heavy bag try an old tire. Take it off the rim first though it should be well worn out so that the tread doesn't cut you then kick flat against it while it is tied vertically to a tree or pole. here is a quote I found about the banana trees: "In the past, the Thai would kick, knee, elbow and punch a young banana sapling until it became soft. Then the trainer would wrap the trunk of the sapling around his forearms, and the fighter would practice kicking and punching some more. Today, we use thick, hard pads to protect our forearms when taking a round kick from a training partner. This is perhaps the origin of the stereotypic tree-kicking scene in kickboxing movies. " _________________ Rock Paper Scissor Punch Knee Kick ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ This Message was edited by: WhiteShark on 2002-07-02 16:14 ]

I'm not trying to be argumentitive just curious. Do you consider the squat exercises I recomended too intense? I started them without any preparation like squattiing weight etc.

Since this is in the fitness section I thought I might add an exercize. One of the things we do in Muay Thai practice is jump squats and squats in general. No weights but lots of reps like do them for 1-2 minutes and see how many you can do. These seem like they couldn't possibly help but after you get good at them you won't believe how much more powerful and fast your legs have gotten. To train more muscle groups and develop both fast and slow twitch muscles use two different squat techniques. 1) Jumping squats - Cross your fingers behind you head like you are going to do a sit up (if you don't have enough balance to keep your hands this high put them on your hips) then lower yourself down as far as is reasonable and then leap off the ground. When you land use the full range of movement to slow yourself down back to the starting position. Keep your back straight and your eyes up! The key for the jump squat is to stay on your toes and keep a continuous rythm. 2) normal squats - Just like with weights but do them continuously. Hands behind your head eyes up back straight this time be sure to keep your foot flat and your weight back on your heels. don't jump just come all the way up then repeat. Our typical squat drill is 1 or 2 minutes of squats with 30 sec rest or 30 sec pushups. These will make your legs significantly stronger and faster in a month. Good luck!

I am! I am making the drive all the way to Iowa. I will be fighting in Light Welterweight division Muay Thai rules. Who else is going and if you aren't why the heck not? http://www.ikfkickboxing.com/USA02Main.htm

Read "Stretching Scientifically". an awesome book do a search and you can find a lot of people recomending it.

I find the best counter for a strong and/or fast jabber is a good lead leg teep(thai front kick). So everytime he tries to jab you kick him in the ribs under the armpit. This hurts like hell even when sparring and will quickly slow down their jab. ALSO So he moves close to jab check his movement with your front leg by teeping the thigh just above the knee. This really messes with their balance and keeps them at a distance. Next if he manages to get in and start jabbing teep him in the armpit.

Thanks for the warm welcome! I thought I'd bump my thread up and see if I can get any more props!

If this is who I think it is you already know. But I train ant Trammel Martial Arts and Fitness. It's a gritty warehouse setting and as friendly as a REAL Thai fighter's gym can be. They have an old web-site (it used to be called Warehouse Martial Arts Club) http://www.warehousemartialarts.com This place is great I highly recommend it very focused on conditioning and sparring like Muay Thai should be.

I am a Returning Thai fighter. I trained for 6-8 months about 7 years a go then I quit and started up again as my new years resolution. I have a Fight in June and am really glad to be back in the game!

It sounds like you just started training in Muah Thai (or else you wouldn't think it was slow) Give it some time before you start confusing yourself with a similar style for cross-training. I think you will find you get MUCH faster in the next 3 months.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu + Muay Thai = Ownage All the best fighters I have met train these two at least.

My Muay Thai school does NOT use belts. Interestingly tho we DO use armbands. There are 5 levels then instructor. No Gi so no belt:)

Don't forget to keep your hips close until you throw your knee. That makes it much harder for them to knee you. Also keep your CG low and shorten your neck. Never lean forward. _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~ Rock Paper Scissor Punch Knee Kick ~~~~~~~~~~ [ This Message was edited by: WhiteShark on 2002-04-23 14:26 ]